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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:11 am

Re: The Grand Tourer: 1971 Accepting Entries to the 21st

Like my entry in the 1996 saloon shootout I aimed for real life comparisons specifically the 1971 dodge charger with a 318 V8 in terms of power, speed and economy. http://www.automobile-catalog.com/make/ ... /1971.html

I'm close but slightly under the gross power, faster than the performance stats in all categories, and down a bit in terms of average economy. The price tag for my car is about 50% higher than the charger as this is a premium gt contest after all so there are lots of handling, comfort, and prestige parts added to make it feel more up market.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:41 am

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nialloftara wrote:I aimed for real life comparisons specifically the 1971 dodge charger with a 318 V8 in terms of power, speed and economy. http://www.automobile-catalog.com/auta_perf1.php


Your link points to a BMW 8-series...
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:49 am

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ArnRno wrote:Your link points to a BMW 8-series...

Weird, fixed now.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:53 am

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Looking at some real life car designs from this era, it appears my submission may be a bit dated :lol: . I'm quite happy with the looks I achieved with a simple design, but maybe this car was released...a decade too late? XD. Looks like as of the time I started typing this post up, I'm off the smallest displacement engine submitted so far by a mere 100ccs or so. A 3 liter flat crank 8 probably wasn't the best choice for the GTP market, but I love the sound. I probably could've done a better job at adhering to the spirit of the challenge, but on the other hand this is my first forum challenge. It was a fun ruleset, and I created a car I'm quite happy with that I can't say I would've made had it not been for this challenge. This car scores in the upper 100s in competitiveness...for the convertible supercar market XD. Definitely could've done better, but I fear that would require some pretty significant design changes, or maybe I just don't know how to do it without making big changes.

Anyways, I slapped together a little peak at the car. I apologize for my computer not getting along with the backgrounds in this game XD. Also, maybe a PM would be more appropriate for pointing this out, but in the OP my car is listed as the "308 Viagera" and not the "308 Viajera" as it should be.

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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:10 am

Re: The Grand Tourer: 1971 Accepting Entries to the 21st

Had you gone quad lights up front it would have looked spot on, the early 70's loved the 4 headlight setup everyone had them Jags, Aston's, BMWs, Mercedes, every full sized American car...
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:19 am

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I actually recall entertaining quad lights at some point. The car I looked to for inspiration, while a mid-sixties model, was running quad lights. Can't quite remember why I scrapped them. Maybe I was just trying to work in some differences so my car didn't end up looking like a copy.

Also, I vote yes for including whoever's entry it was that fell short of the wheelbase requirement if that's still a thing.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:41 am

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@Durk - thanks for the vote. I think I'm going to enter it regardless - even if it can't win, and my other car is "better."

Also, quad headlights are great - Initially tried to put them on my entries, but the models didn't want to behave, so I gave up. My too-short design has quad headlights... they're just behind covers during the day.

Speaking of, Ferrari's Daytona, arguably the best GT car ever made, ran quad-headlights behind covers... although technically, it also had too short a wheelbase for this competition, only 2.4 meters.
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Perhaps it was a bit too inspiring for me. :D
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:50 am

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I also have no issue with the shorter car being in. So long as it's not a issue with lordred.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:56 am

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I've been working on a lot of 50s-early 60s cars recently, so I tend to gravitate towards those aesthetics. One of the biggest reasons for me putting together a car for this challenge was its proximity to that era, actually. I'm having a lot of fun playing with earlier technology these days. I've become burnt out on 90s-2010s cars, which I used to build a lot of. I find it easier to make a really good looking car prior to the modern era, too. Might just be that I'm not too fond of most modern car aesthetics.

The car I put together for this challenge is actually the first car I landed a 50/50 weight distribution with. It's not something I've tried particularly hard to achieve in the past, and I just stumbled upon it by accident in this challenge. Once the engine was in I think I was around 49F/51 going on 52R. After giving the interior a healthy dose of quality sliders I got the rear down to 50.1 and just nudged the rear of the car a hair and landed on 50/50. Doesn't necessarily mean it's a great car automatically, but it's one of those dumb little performance figures like 1000 horsepower or x amount of Gs on the skidpad that I could hype up if I was actually selling this car in real life, lol.

I actually took a look at the Ferrari Daytona, although it was after I submitted my car. I'm fairly new to the car world in general, but especially earlier decades. I'm really digging 50s-70s European cars now that I am learning about them.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:49 am

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Since everybody else seems to be sharing their cars.

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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:51 am

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This is V12 367hp GT called Dark M :)

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And I have no problem with someone entering shorter wheelbase.
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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:57 am

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So, here is my entry, since I'm just about the only one who hasn't shared yet. It's apparently not scoring anywhere near anyone else in terms of desirability or competitiveness, but I'm really not surprised, as this is a 6.6L OHV V8 in a relatively small car. The backstory, since my company does not manufacture cars in 1971 (founded as a tuning shop in 1969, began manufacture in 1982), is Ferrari sent this to me to "Americanize" their new model to siphon sales out of the premium muscle car market over here. It scores insanely high in hyper car, super car, and convertible supercar markets, however! It hosts a modest ~400 hp to the rear wheels, but is quite comparable to cars of the day. I give you the GTB400 for 1971!

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Post Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:09 am

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@07CobaltGirl - I love the way you do your badge work - I don't have the patience for that, surely. I also must commend your tuning house on being one of the world's earliest adopters of LEDs. :D

Also, how big is everyone else running their wheels? I'm seeing what look to be gigantic rims for the time period..... Unless it was a heavy truck, I think pretty much everyone in the world ran 13-to-15 inch wheels (no idea on the metric equivalent).
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