First car, feedback appreciated

[Cyk0]

The year is 1982... And you want to be in the car of the future.


This is the car of the future: Lightweight, turbochaged and high revving!

Some parts of the build might be of questionable quality... And the car might be accident prone since it likes to oversteer (a boon according to some) and its equipped with an engine doesn't really come alive until around 3500 rpm. But what an engine! Driving experience, is the part of the car were focus has been lavished, it featured some high quality pistons and a turbo that together allow the car to have a relatively wide (but high) usable powerband, and 450 hp on pump gas in the early 80s is not to shaby from a cramped inline 6 shoved in sideways in a car that can be mistaken for a regular passenger car if the observer is still hungover from last nights Tequila Sunrise and Pina Colada binge.

I'l gladly accept tips on how to improve my design both engine and car.

[lordvader1]

looks good but
driveability too low - can be fixed
reliable -yes
price -good
economy - needs a bit of fixed

here is my bit of tuning,
your fuel was too rich,
if you want to reduce weight, basic equipment is less heavier,
engine requires less cooling that means less drag


btw some facelift

[Cyk0]

Thanks I will take a look at it, You go quite a big boost in drive ability there, how bad was the acceleration time hit? It used to do it at 4.1

[lordvader1]

Thanks I will take a look at it, You go quite a big boost in drive ability there, how bad was the acceleration time hit? It used to do it at 4.1

4.3

[cpufreak101]

i'll see what i can get done wit it

[Cyk0]

I like the looks of the facelift, i tried something like that initially but it felt a bit dishonest with the engine in the back.

[nialloftara]

Well some mid engine cars have front mounted radiators like the older MR2's so that's still not false advertising.

[cpufreak101]

it's not the best, if i wanted it to go a bit slower i could work more on economy, but i got it up to 15 mpg and goes about 10 MPH faster, if you don't mind it going a bit slower i can work on the economy a little more

[nialloftara]

So having looked it over I have a question, what is your vision for this car? You have a really hyped up engine packed into a tiny cramped mid engine platform with lots of heavy luxury bits. It feels like your building a stripped out hypercar powertrain from a F40 or GTO type car and a premium luxury coupe like a S-class at the same time. Its confusing and hard to figure out what market you are aiming for. So could you provide some kind of mission statementfor this?

[oppositelock]

I went with a milder (and cheaper) approach. I didn't like that the I6 was so wide that I couldn't fit double wishbones in rear, so I ditched it for a narrower 4.4L naturally aspirated V8. It's down on power by a third, but still does 0-62 in 4.2 seconds. The tires, suspension and brakes are also far more optimized now.

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[Cyk0]

Well some mid engine cars have front mounted radiators like the older MR2's so that's still not false advertising.

True, and I guess some of it could be for the front brakes as well.

it's not the best, if i wanted it to go a bit slower i could work more on economy, but i got it up to 15 mpg and goes about 10 MPH faster, if you don't mind it going a bit slower i can work on the economy a little more

I guess 15 mpg is sort of the area where it starts getting acceptable, its better than other highly tuned cars of the era (such as the countach) but from a smaller engine.

So having looked it over I have a question, what is your vision for this car? You have a really hyped up engine packed into a tiny cramped mid engine platform with lots of heavy luxury bits. It feels like your building a stripped out hypercar powertrain from a F40 or GTO type car and a premium luxury coupe like a S-class at the same time. Its confusing and hard to figure out what market you are aiming for. So could you provide some kind of mission statementfor this?

Honestly somewere allong the lines of what you are actually describing the vision was sort of to recreate something that captured the spirit of the extreme cars of the era. Built with a passion for driving but with the volume "turned up to eleven" impacting driveability, and then like many lower number car designs in history it tries to grasp farther than it can reach with a poorly executed veneer of luxury.
I could do a 1990 major update of the car , trying to get it suitable for mass production and ready to reach a wider audience (Less temperamental, better fuel economy, etc) Basically something like a more muscular mid-engined e30 m3. Suggestions on the direction and suitable goals for that car would be appreciated. (The funny thing with that is that looking from a current day perspective everybody would want to own the crappy 80s version that is truer to form, before it was tamed)

I went with a milder (and cheaper) approach. I didn't like that the I6 was so wide that I couldn't fit double wishbones in rear, so I ditched it for a narrower 4.4L naturally aspirated V8. It's down on power by a third, but still does 0-62 in 4.2 seconds. The tires, suspension and brakes are also far more optimized now.

I hadn't touched the suspension and tires to much so its nice that you found some room for improvement there. I can't really argue since you certainly upped the stats but I still feel a bit saddened by the lack of the too long high revving i6 and I cant find enough ways to break it when not having a turbo to tune either