Battle of the Half-Tons [REVIEW POSTED]

[nialloftara]

If you were trying to make a vw caddy style pickup I'm guessing a small 4 cylinder engine? Go solid rear with at least a 5 liter v8.

[SeriousSimon]

Hm, if that's the only way to get the utility, then this competition is not for me, sorry. Thanks for the help though!

[oppositelock]

You need to use a ladder frame, not monocoque.

[SeriousSimon]

Oh! I forgot about that totally. My bad. Thank you, oppositelock!

[VicVictory]

Yep. Ladder frame is going to be necessary to get the utility necessary. You CAN still put in a small-ish motor and get the specs (I got it to go with a 2.1L I6 in one of my balancing tests before hand). Just remember - fuel economy is on a bit of a bell curve, if that's what you're looking for. Weight of the truck is very important when factoring that. Too small or too large of an engine will not give great results in that category.

Also think of what stats are weighted. Sportiness is almost useless, while utility is very heavily weighted.

[Leonardo9613]

Europeans, they don't understand american trucks. Neither do I, to be honest, so I made this.

I couldn't use the Baltazar brand, so this is the first vehicle of my american sub-brand, Bush Motors. I present the Bush Joseph V8, packed with 7.6 litres of push-rod power. Fuel economy is terrible, but utility is superb, I think.
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No, it isn't AWD nor it has a turbo.

[conan]

And because Leo made that bloody thing. I made this thing.





This BKOO Targa Truck is the special edition of the famous BKOO Truck line, because it got Targa roof! And a 418 cubic inches V8 motor that produce many many horsepower, so much that strop might try to buy one for reasons.

[BlastersPewPew]

Orange turn signals? We dont need no stinkin' orange turn signals!! Not a bad looking truck, front looks like a bit like a Dakota. And yes, I hate rear orange turn signals, damned things are too bright at night, plus you never know if you have a brake light out when you have orange signals unless you are one of the 0.01% that actually check their bulbs.

[Leonardo9613]

I hate red-turn signals, I can never tell if the driver has a bad connection or if he is going to turn. The damned things are too dim at all times, I can't see what the person is going to do at all

Seriously though, I don't like the blinking brake lights indicators. And I have no concept of trucks, so I just did the basic stuff. Square lights, square grille, chrome, big badges and that was that. And the rear tyres can't handle the power.

[BlastersPewPew]

I hate red-turn signals, I can never tell if the driver has a bad connection or if he is going to turn. The damned things are too dim at all times, I can't see what the person is going to do at all

Seriously though, I don't like the blinking brake lights indicators. And I have no concept of trucks, so I just did the basic stuff. Square lights, square grille, chrome, big badges and that was that. And the rear tyres can't handle the power.

Oh dont worry, I completely understand the logic behind orange signals, same with I understand the logic of the metric system but damnit, I am American and I give the stink eye to such logic Let me use my attoparsecs, hogsheads and shakes of a cat's tail for measuring

EDIT: BTW what kind of power are you putting down? I had a '90 F250 with a 7.5L V8 and it only had 225hp and got 4MPG.

[Leonardo9613]

I can see your point as well, you are used to them. But just like the imperial system, they are inferior to the european counterpart .

My truck has 248 hp, 510 Nm of torque (which is irrelevant) and does 14 US MPG. A lot better than your Ford then, but still terrible.

[BlastersPewPew]

For 1978 in the US that is actually VERY good, especially when you're using pushrods. The one thing that annoys me is that the real life counterpart to my truck could manage 25-30mpg whereas in the game I struggle to get to over 14 with any setting, it seems like the 1bbl carbs are just really crappy right now.

[z2bbgr]

I have some question regarding to this challenge.
Is there any penalty for high engine capacity? As in real life bigger engine capacity will have more "cost - to - own" due to Engine Capacity Tax by many countries.

[BlastersPewPew]

AFAIK there is no such tax in this case, just keep an eye on your total costs and service costs.

[conan]

In 1978 America (where this challenge is clearly aimed at) there was not any Engine Capacity Tax. In fact, there still isn't any. Also Gas Guzzler tax was not in effect until 1980, and you didn't have to meet CAFE rating for trucks until 1979 either. So go on and make that 10.9 litre V8 Truck.