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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:32 am

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This sounds like way too much fun not to try. :) I wonder how much pressure that old block can take.
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:54 am

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Oh, enough.

Because I know strop didn't think I could do it...

I DID THE NISMO STAGE ON THAT SOMBITCH!

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Looky looky, under 8 minutes!

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And the LUA file...

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Alright, I'll be back in a bit with a challenge for Slim Jim.
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:58 am

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Under 8 seconds? How many unicorns did it take? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ALL OF THEM! :lol:

(post corrected to say minutes)
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:24 am

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SLIM JIM'S CHALLENGE

So your cousin Nicky, who has far more money than brains, has a fondness for nostalgic designs. It shows through once again when he drives up to the family Christmas dinner (in 1980) in a brand new Misty Cruiser. Known for being rather plush sedans, the design has been around forever with almost no changes. Its manufacturer subscribes to the same theory that Nicky does, that older is pretty much always better. After all, that's the only explanation for the lovely long-stroke Straight-6 they use in this model (well, it's really that they never bothered to make a V8 because they're also kind of cheapskates). You roll your eyes and groan as he steps inside the front door.

Fortunately you manage to stay away from the topic of his car for most of the night, but invariably (and after several spiked egg nogs) he corners you and engages you in conversation about his new toy. After a few minutes of him gloating about his relic of the 60's, you snap, and let him know what you really think about the car. You even make an off-hand comment about how nobody gives the Misty Cruiser the time of day anymore, and that the only chicks he could pick up are from the retirement home. He grins, puts his arm around you, and lowers his voice creepily.

"Well then. If you think that you can make it go faster and still keep my butt comfy, then go ahead. But just remember. Ol Nicky doesn't like chickens. Or liars."

It's only then that you remember that he has some vague mob connections.

"Oh, and since you like performance so much, it has to do well in all kinds of situations. Open roads, curves, you name it. And it has to get Nicky the ladies."

THE BASE CAR:

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Yup, it's a luxury car. Not a particularly impressive one anyway. But at least they sprang for MFI instead of the 2 barrel carb that used to be on the engine a couple years ago. But Nicky has put it ALL on you to pony up the dough and the labor to make this thing work better.

RESTRICTIONS:

Bore, stroke, valve configuration, engine internals, materials, and ANY/EVERYTHING on the Platform tab (Chassis, Body, Fixtures) may NOT be touched.
Exception: may add a lip to front, rear, or both
Mechanical injection must be retained, 91 RON
The transmission may NOT be touched (yes, you're stuck with a crappy wide-ratio 3 speed auto)
May not touch anything on the trim tab except insulation.
May not add under-cladding
Minimum ride height of 200mm
Total Cost must be no more than $14000
Production Units no more than 150
No semi-slick tires

Anything not mentioned above, including quality sliders (except for trim and transmission) is fair game.

METRICS:
Must get better than 1:58 on the FLYING LAP portion of Laguna Seca (Sector 3)
Must get better than 1:37 on the Airfield Track
Must have comfort greater than 45
Must have prestige over 35

REWARD:
Meet the bare minimums, Nicky is happy, reimburses you for your time and capital, and lets you go on your way.
If you can improve the track performance by at least 6 seconds between the 2 tracks, or meet minimum track performance and exceed comfort and prestige goals by a combined total of 8 or more points, Nicky gives you a job... "fixing"... cars in his syndicate. You are set for life, living lavishy (although with one eye constantly over your shoulder)
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:44 am

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Better get to work! :lol:

edit:

OK, so here's what I did!

I spent many man hours working on a high-output naturally-aspirated version of the Misty Cruiser's engine. I shaved the cylinder heads to raise the compression ratio, reground the camshaft, fitted long-tubular headers, and fiddled with the injection system to flow extra air/fuel. The net result? Abject failure! :P

So I went back to the drawing board. I replaced the modified heads and cams with brand new stock units (financed by selling the long-tube headers I bought). As luck would have it, while searching a junkyard for parts, I happened across a nearly new, but wrecked 1976 Porsche 930 Turbo. :D All the damage was to the front end, so the turbocharger was still in tact! I bought the turbo, fabricated a custom manifold for it and an intercooler. A few twists of the ignition distributor, and voila! Timing = optimized. I modified the fuel relay to raise the rev limiter, installed a custom 2.5-inch exhaust with cat and mufflers, and fiddled with the suspension.

The turbo was an absolute stroke of genius considering it made the car not only faster, but just as quiet - if not quieter! Apart the wheels/tires from the same wrecked 930 Turbo (205/55R-16 sports compound tires), there are no obvious visual clues that the Misty Cruiser is modified. The exhaust is even connected to the factory tip! Honestly, it's the ultimate sleeper. I told cousin Nicky to keep an eye on her though - just like the ladies he'll be attracting, it may experience hot flashes. Just gotta know when to back off, and everything will be fine. :P

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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:00 pm

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Yep. Looks good. You did it in a much easier way than I did (though mine was turbo'ed also).

Let's see what challenge you come up with for TheTom.
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:24 pm

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Awesome! As for my challenge for TheTom: I have two ideas I'm mulling over. I'll present them in a little while. This is fun! :mrgreen:

That last sentence is alluding to the fact that it has insufficient cooling for the power. Without any reliability requirements however... :twisted:
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:13 pm

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I'm excited to see what kind of challenge i'm about to receive :) But in any case, i won't be able to do it today as i'm gonna spend pretty much all day at work (we're taking inventory today) so i'm only gonna be able to do it tomorrow.
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Post Fri Dec 19, 2014 7:20 pm

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OK, that gives me more time to work on it then! (and figure out what I'm gonna do)
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Post Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:14 am

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what must one do to receive a challenge?
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Post Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:20 am

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Manche wrote:what must one do to receive a challenge?



You need to wait until the person before you in the list at the first page clears his challenge, then you will receive one
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Post Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:22 am

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Manche wrote:what must one do to receive a challenge?


If you'd like to join in this round, I'll add you to the end of the list.

And reminder to all the other competitors: You can start thinking about the challenge you want to issue to the person below you at any time. You just can't actually post it until the previous challenge is cleared.
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Post Sat Dec 20, 2014 5:58 am

Re: Pay It Forward Design Challenge [Round 1 Challenges]

This challenge is for TheTom!

Your job? Slash total costs approximately $10,000/car...but don't change the stats too much. This is a highly anticipated car and the specifications need to impress potential buyers.

The story: It's 2009, and you're an engineer at a major automaker... that just declared bankruptcy! It's not a liquidation, just a reorganization, so operations will continue albeit at a reduced capacity. Your team has been working hard on a high-performance luxury sport sedan designed to destroy your competition. However, with high development costs and general economic uncertainty, management has demanded that you not only *drastically* reduce the development costs of this new car, but also maintain its original performance and efficiency targets!

Most of the vehicle design choices are too far along in the development process and are therefore locked. Any changes to them would cost more in further research and development - money you and your team simply do not have. You can only use your spare time for tuning, and parts laying around the factory.



You may change ONLY the following:
*Chassis material (the factory is big enough for tooling of all types, and has its own STEEL mill)
*Cam profile (there are plenty of cams to choose from around the factory)
*Max boost (easily changed in the ECU tune)
*Intake (can use the performance intake from the company's sports car with the same engine)
*Fuel mixture (easily changed in the ECU tune)
*Ignition timing (easily changed in the ECU tune)
*Single or dual exhaust (the body was designed to accommodate both configurations)
*Exhaust diameter (the factory carries pipes of all sizes due to large model range)
*Tire compound (the company struck a deal with a tire supplier as part of its reorganization plan)
*REAR tire width (cannot be less than front tire width - which must remain 265mm)
*Aero inclination
*Downforce

As for the quality sliders, ALL can be adjusted. They can be reduced, but NOT raised from their current levels. (for example, if there is +7 quality, it can be dropped to +6 or below... if there is -7 quality, it can be dropped to -8 or below).

Management requirements:
*Minimum 550 horsepower
*1/4 mile time in 12.99 or faster /// edit: (using main game stats)
*Minimum tameness: 59
*Minimum car reliability: 64
*Minimum 20 miles per gallon /// edit: (20 US mpg or 24 UK mpg)
*Maximum total cost: $14,500
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Post Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:13 am

Re: Pay It Forward Design Challenge [Round 1 Challenges]

Got it. I'll start working on it tomorrow. Just asking, can i change the compression ratio or not? It would make sense because if you adjust cam profile, mad boost and fuel mixture, you might have to change compression ratio as well. And 1/4 time as measured by the game's main stats or as measured on Tulsa? Oh, and UK miles per gallon or US mpg?
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