Peoples Republic of Comrade Underground Cup [View Results]

[Manche]

yes

[Reaper392]

Ah, I've just realised that I misread the rules and need 55 for reliability, not 45. This puts a rather large spanner in the works for my otherwise rather excellent car

[Jakgoe]

Anyone willing to come public with their times?

[np1993]

Ah, I've just realised that I misread the rules and need 55 for reliability, not 45. This puts a rather large spanner in the works for my otherwise rather excellent car

you can sneak your reliability up by 'improving' the quality sliders on your body/fixtures and chasis.

[Reaper392]

Ah, I've just realised that I misread the rules and need 55 for reliability, not 45. This puts a rather large spanner in the works for my otherwise rather excellent car

you can sneak your reliability up by 'improving' the quality sliders on your body/fixtures and chasis.

Yes, but when I have pennies to spend that isn't the greatest way of improving the reliability. Thankfully only a small engine modification was required to get things working again.

[np1993]

Ah, I've just realised that I misread the rules and need 55 for reliability, not 45. This puts a rather large spanner in the works for my otherwise rather excellent car

you can sneak your reliability up by 'improving' the quality sliders on your body/fixtures and chasis.

Yes, but when I have pennies to spend that isn't the greatest way of improving the reliability. Thankfully only a small engine modification was required to get things working again.

some of the fixtures can be improved and actually save you money. (somehow) its not much but like 50$ helps

[Reaper392]

Anyone willing to come public with their times?

I would also be very interested in hearing some times, especially from those of you at the high 300 or low 400 bhp mark

*edit*

some of the fixtures can be improved and actually save you money. (somehow) its not much but like 50$ helps

I'd tried all the quality sliders and put them in their cheapest positions already. There really wasnt that much power sacrificed to get the reliability up to where it needed to be for the current test car, so its all good now

[VicVictory]

I'm not hugely adverse to sharing my times (because I suck and I'm never going to win), but I have to ask this question of those asking for times. And I ask this respectfully, not trying to be an ass about it, but...

Why would you even ask such a thing while submissions are still being accepted? Clearly you put anyone who posts their time (and anyone with similar times) at a clear disadvantage because you are giving yourself a known benchmark to try to beat. Which then will lead to those people being forced to take more time to tune their cars again more to try to beat the new benchmark.

I spent a good couple hours last night re-tuning the crap out of my clunker to eke out every hundredth of a second I could within the budget. The time necessary to get even more out of it will grow exponentially, as will frustration that it has to be done.

Will I re-tune my Clunker if someone posts their time? No. Because honestly I don't know the secrets that everyone else seems to know here to get the insane maximum out of a given displacement.

Now... I will personally post my times if Reaper or Jakgoe can give me a good, rational explanation to do so during the middle of design/submission phase.

[np1993]

Submissions are being accepted up until the 29th. It's your call if you want to post times, however I agree with VicVictory, it may dishearten some people who have yet to submit, or drive others to work even harder to beat a benchmark.

If people start posting times and sending in 10th and 11th revisions of their car because somebody posted a time of blah, and now they rebuilt their car to score an 'blah' minus 0.01 I might have to cut off how many revisions I will accept. I know some revisions were for technicalities, or modifications to be legal but its becoming a hassle to go through the list of submissions, see which ones is current and updating my records.

I have a pretty slick spreadsheet with everyone's specs ranging from weight, money spent, fuel mileage and power to weight ratios that I will post after the race results (with participants consent of course). its quite the hassle to peoples data entries.

[Reaper392]

You make a very good point there. I was thinking about sharing my time to get the ball rolling, but I think I will just save that for results day. That way we will only have the frustration of the automation magician's times on results day.

As for data sharing, go ahead. I'll probably upload my car to this thread once the results are up anyway

[Jakgoe]

That way we will only have the frustration of the automation magician's times on results day.

Yes, *hehe*, the automation magician *hehehe*.

[VicVictory]

"You're a Wizard, Jakgoe..."

[strop]

I've determined I won't send any more revisions in, I know I'm not the fastest (because I've shared my time privately), but I find myself mellowing out and starting to explore other things or impose other restrictions... Usually to do with achieving a higher power to weight ratio at the cost of drivability

[np1993]

ATTENTION: when submitting your car via PM please add the following things in your message:
-permission to post cars hp ratings
-permission to post photo of your car and car specs after race results are in.
I will be making a little blurb about the cars that place top 5, and the winners of he bonus points. Those who have already submitted a car PM me in regard to posting your stats unless we have already spoken.

[Manche]

you can post my v8 sleeper no problem