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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:58 pm

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Yep, totally. The only year requirement is the safety must be at least Basic of the latest applicable year. Anything else goes.

I'd love to set a benchmark, but I don't know what to go with: a 2014 MR supercar (boring), a 2014 AWD megacar (only slightly more interesting), a 1986 M3 E30 with a modern engine (based on the NFS Shift 2 car that got me into Automation in the first place), a 1975 Ford XB Falcon John Goss Special, again with a modern engine, or a carbon rebodied Aston Martin DB5 with an engine tuned to 1000hp, or even an attempt at replicating Seb Loeb's Peugeot 208 T16... the list of possibilities goes on.

EDIT: Just realised it's awfully easy to make a car with a tameness of 0. Since dividing by zero carries apocalyptic consequence, I have edited the bonus rules slightly.
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:23 pm

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I'm in!

Presenting... The Leeroy Lunatic!!!

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In typical Eastern European fashion, well known (In Moldova) tuning firm Leeroy have released a simply insane, yet street legal, touge/drift weapon onto the unsuspecting crowd at the Moldovan SEMA.

People where seen to gasp and gesticulate wildly at the Lunatic saying: "It won't work on our roads" and "I lost a brother to a Leeroy air intake once!"

Oh well, maybe crazy Westerners will want one; only a win in this competition will achieve that!
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:47 pm

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Looks like fun :lol: I actually started making an insane FWD car, before realising that this actually is a race.
Whelp, back to the drawing board. :P
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Post Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:03 pm

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I have already designed a 2014 FWD car... ummm i would not want over 800bhp on the front wheels. Lol
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:16 am

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Aw Dragawn, you should do it anyway! FWD cars are surprisingly competitive in these qualifying conditions, and the scoring balance actually kind of tips in the favour of a well-designed FF car. An example as to why:

One of my contenders is Strop's ex-Civic that was taken for a bit of a ride in VosNox's FWD challenge... only this time it's gone well past Stage 3 tune and onto Stage X... out went the ex-F1 rebored V8 block and in went a turbo 2L i4 putting out a healthy 673bhp @ 7800rpm, for a power:weight ratio of 1hp:1kg. Without even doing any further tuning, it's bloody quick, easily destroying my replica BMW M3 E30 Works (1273hp, 1080kg) around the technical tracks, and only losing out in the straight line speed tracks. And with an extra 6 or so bonus points up its sleeve, the Civic probably would have the upper hand on the M3!
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 1:31 am

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I'll see, I have a more traditional Dragotec fashioned prototype nearly finished now. With a surprisingly high tameness/sportiness ratio for a car which reached the holy 1kw/kg ratio before during development, but lost it in favour of other things :P .

EDIT: Question, are front mounted wings street legal? :lol:
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:47 am

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Hmm it seems that the engine from the comet fwd prototype has gone missing... and I think I just heard a turbo blowoff from the shed. what could be going on in there, just last night I saw the team unloading ome of our worst selling models '74 brougham from a junkyard. They must have no idea what to build.
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 4:04 am

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Dragawn wrote:EDIT: Question, are front mounted wings street legal? :lol:


Oh damn, that's a good question. Technically a front mounted wing increases risk of pedestrian injury in event of a frontal collision and may impair visibility, therefore they should not be legal :( However, because some road legal splitter and air dam modifications can still generate a good amount of downforce, I would say you are free to add them, just try to do so in a less conspicuous way ;) (And I better figure out a better way to design the Civic Aero if I can't use a Rado style front wing...)

Another way to interpret it, is, for example, how Dodge got its ACR to lap Nordschleife quicker by using a front splitter that effectively made the car not road legal for the duration of its attachment (but it was easily detachable).
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:02 am

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Thank you for the hint. Seems like my idea needs some more thought...
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:38 am

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Been tuning this FWD car and holy hell, for a car that has over 850bhp now. Its goes around Nordschleife faster than any car i have thrown around it.

Strop i agree, FWD cars do surprisingly well in this format.
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:46 pm

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Something smells terribly burnt outside of AMW's factory. On the factory's closed 5km testing straight, you can only hear a high-revving V8 but you can't see anything as the entire place is covered in smoke. And as the smoke finally faded away, the car had already disappeared. Something mad is about to be unleashed.
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:56 pm

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Where is all that tyre smoke coming from, outside our factory?
Wait, the engine just blew? :roll:
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:58 pm

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Having done some further testing (of my own models, not anybody else's as yet), I've decided to rebalance the points slightly by allocating slightly more points to the FR format. I apologise if this would change your strategy, and if you've already submitted, I'm happy for you to resubmit or retune.
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Post Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:08 pm

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Helps me, having already choosen to go FR.
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Post Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:37 am

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I've also decided that since I can't decide which car of my own to enter, I'm tempted to benchmark a heap of them in different formats. As the host, I'm not allowed to score points, however, the cars I run will appear in the race standings so you have an idea of how they might have performed, though they will not count as real entries, so your standings will not be affected in any way.

Thing is, I created this tournament so people could experience the kind of stuff I habitually play with, so just about all of the cars in my garage have >1000bhp or >1hp:kg. So far my choices include:

  • 2014 Ascension Mephisto, GG's own highly sinful fastback coupe AWD mega car.
  • 2014 Sleipnir, GG's own MR supercar currently on an ongoing pre-release campaign to take over the world.
  • 2013 Honda Civic GG Tune, Strop's FF ex-sensible city runabout initially given a Stage 3 Time Attack makeover for VosNox's FWD competition. Now tuned well beyond sensible and surprisingly competitive on the circuit.
  • 1986 BMW M3 E30 Works, with a sourced recent reconditioned engine. This one's a real handful, just like its equivalent I drive in NFS Shift 2.
  • 1975 Ford XB Falcon John Goss Extra Special, the ol' Falcon given a proper tubbing and reboot with a ridiculously large engine that easily puts out 2500hp. Massive wheelspin penalty anyone?
  • 1965 Aston Martin DB5 Big Block Edition... with a 1974 10L V8 running 1003hp. I'm currently debating whether to keep the 1965 chassis and trim (which would guarantee it finish dead last in every event owing to the prohibitively small tyres), or whether to modernise the chassis, strip it out and rebuild it in carbon, which would give it almost 1hp:1kg... and give most of your entries a good run for their money.
  • 1962 Cadillac Series 62, an answer to what happened to the missing chassis from The Hulk project (see story on next page). 3100hp going through a pair of 245mm wide tyres... hmmmmmm.
There's just so many possibilities!
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