Dalora Motors - Opinions Wanted please.

[Lothoren]

Here at Dalora, we pride ourselves on making car designed to run at track days and in competitions. With recent developments in car design we decided to develop a car using some of this new technology. Here today i present to you our latest model.

Dalora Echo



Front End
The front is designed to look aggressive, while incorporating enough air flow to the engine.


Rear End
The rear end is designed to be as simple, neat and tidy as possible.


Side


Engine
The DPE-409H is a 4.0l V8 Twin Turbo engine and third engine developed for this range. The engine in this model, the Echo GT, is actually limited to 900bhp, But this can be further improved.




Models:
Echo
Engine: DPE-255H
Power: 526BHP
Torque: 466Nm
Reliability: 74.3
Economy: 8.93lt/100Km
Drivetrain: 6 gear AWD
Cost: $60,000
Test Track: 2:16.36
Echo Sport
Engine: DPE-408H
Power: 803bhp
Torque: 744Nm
Reliability(Engine): 75.8
Economy: 10.18lt/100km
Drivetrain: 8 gear AWD
Cost: $90,000
Test Track: 2:09.31
Echo GT
Engine:DPE-409H
Power: 900bhp
Torque: 889Nm
Reliability(Engine): 56.6
Economy: 12.31lt/100km
Drivetrain: 8 gear AWD
Cost: $115,000
Test Track: 2:05.07

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Engines Notes:

Engines naming follows the following format:

DPE = Dalora Perofrmance Engines
## = Engine size without the decimal place. Example: 4.0 = 40
#H =Engine power to the nearest hundred. H is substituted for K if engine power is around the 1000 mark.

Example: DPE-409H = 4.0l Engine with 900 Horsepower made by Dalora Performance Engines.

[Microwave]

Ok, in my honest opinion this car is not worth the money at all. Now I'm not the smartest guy ever and correct me if I'm wrong but isn't AWD bad for corners/tracks? Your production units are ridiculously high, the front end of your car looks very nice and unique but the back end doesn't scream "$200,000" to me (even though I'm aware you said that it's designed for simplicity). I'm pretty sure I'd be able to buy a nice 458 or some kind of low end Lamborghini with that kind of money.
So yeah, basically you may want to find different ways of increasing power/reliability etc without putting the quality sliders all the way up to 15 (or it seems you've done that atleast), you may want to consider changing your approach to the back end and also I'd like if you could post your lap times around the Automation Test Track
(This is just constructive criticism, not trying to put you down.)

[Lothoren]

Laptimes around the test track are:

Echo: 2:16.36
Echo Sport: 2:09.31
Echo GT: 2:05.07


I can see where you are coming from with the Quality sliders. For each version they include differences. Only the GT version has maximum performance sliders.. But then i defiantly did not give it full beans on power.

I made a couple of changes and revised the prices. as well as updating the stats and including the Test Track times I will update the engine pic shortly as well

BTW With the same settings a RWD GT goes around in 2:12.66

[strop]

AWD isn't necessarily bad for track (if you look at the various Pro Time Attack results, AWD actually tends to do better). It certainly is different to RWD (and FWD obviously), but results depend on several factors, including how good you are at driving AWD. My understanding of the simulation is that the track testing finds the optimum speed for the corner and just sticks to that, meaning that the only difference AWD makes here is that a) with 900bhp AWD means much better acceleration off the mark b) the car is slightly heavier up the front. In this case, a) is clearly more important than b)... however if one was using a rear heavy car like the mid-engined supercar body, then that's a completely different story!

Note: I'm pretty sure that torque distribution for AWD and LSD will become available soon, as they have a very significant impact on the characteristic and capability of a car.

My comment on the car's appearance is that it looks like the performance division of Holden and Ford over here (in Australia), like, say, a Holden HSV Senator, so I can see the market for it. However I can tell you that they're also a fair chunk cheaper at equivalent performance levels (though they don't like AWD in their sports cars because their market niche is purist like that). On the flip side, the problem with using Q15 on most things is that the costs are so astronomical that if you offer something like that for 200K, you'll definitely be making a huge loss on each car no matter how many you sell. (I also use Q15 for many things on most of my vehicles but the proposed arrangement I have running is rather different and takes liberties based on other programs and sponsorships the company is involved in).

[Lothoren]

My comment on the car's appearance is that it looks like the performance division of Holden and Ford over here (in Australia), like, say, a Holden HSV Senator, so I can see the market for it. However I can tell you that they're also a fair chunk cheaper at equivalent performance levels (though they don't like AWD in their sports cars because their market niche is purist like that). On the flip side, the problem with using Q15 on most things is that the costs are so astronomical that if you offer something like that for 200K, you'll definitely be making a huge loss on each car no matter how many you sell. (I also use Q15 for many things on most of my vehicles but the proposed arrangement I have running is rather different and takes liberties based on other programs and sponsorships the company is involved in).

V8 Supercars look amazing. Plus the racing is almost always entertaining whenever i watch it.

I actually have only 1 or 2 Q15's, the rest are Q10 or lower.

[Jakgoe]

The quad exhausts seem a bit small for a 900hp turbocharged engine, don't you think?

[strop]

V8 Supercars look amazing. Plus the racing is almost always entertaining whenever i watch it.

You would have loved the recent Bathurst 1000, I missed it but the race was so full of unexpected drama and cliffhangers and the ultimate twist right at the end that commentators immediately called it the best Bathurst 1000 ever in the history of V8 Supercars. Who knows, maybe Ford might even decide to stay in the series as a result of that race.

Though it was before my time, I wasn't a huge fan of when they decided to make it Australian marques only for like two decades because Holden and Ford (and just about everybody else around the world) was getting destroyed by the Skyline E-BNR32 and its RB26DETT, so for a long time I didn't bother watching it, but with the recent trends in FIA regulations on F1, I'm slowly coming back: by world standards the rules are very permissive and there's a good chance of a righteous bangup, besides, I'm curious to see how Volvo gets on. My favourite moment from this year is probably this one, gets me every time (and the radio message at the end, classic).

[Lothoren]

V8 Supercars look amazing. Plus the racing is almost always entertaining whenever i watch it.

Though it was before my time, I wasn't a huge fan of when they decided to make it Australian marques only for like two decades because Holden and Ford (and just about everybody else around the world) was getting destroyed by the Skyline E-BNR32 and its RB26DETT, so for a long time I didn't bother watching it, but with the recent trends in FIA regulations on F1, I'm slowly coming back: by world standards the rules are very permissive and there's a good chance of a righteous bangup, besides, I'm curious to see how Volvo gets on. My favourite moment from this year is probably this one, gets me every time (and the radio message at the end, classic).

Now that is what F1 is missing. Wet weather, drifting around corners, and no life threatening crashes.

Jakgoe. I did start off with larger exhausts, but as i went on i wasnt happy with them and how they looked, so they shrunk. Plus it makes a change to have smaller exhausts, normally all i see on here is larger ones. Nice to have a change.

[strop]

and no life threatening crashes

I dunno about that last bit, at the least the Mountain has killed quite a few people! Though not so much as of late... the Bianchi crash actually shocked me, especially when I heard he'd run into a tractor!

[VosNox]

Ain't gonna steal my Echos' thunder yet, but youve got some potential. Way to damn expensive though. I'd estimate a good price for that in $70 to $80k range.

[Microwave]

Aye, I'm pretty sure the Hellcat only starts at $59k

[Lothoren]

I shall continue tinkering with the Echo and see where i can get it too. But right now. its time to unveil another car.

Dalora Ascendo
Engine: DPE-407H
Power: 700BHP
Torque: 701Nm
Reliability: 61.2
Economy: 11.18lt/100Km
Drivetrain: 6 gear RWD
Cost: $50,000
Test Track: 2:15.61









With this car, you will find there are 0 quality slideres used, either positively, or negatively. I did take on some of your comments while designing this car. The engine is infact a tuned down DPE-408H which created a DPE-407H.

[Lothoren]

Dalora Luxuria

This is the first car designed by Dalora to be comfortable, luxurious and unique. The Luxuria comes equipped with Hand Crafted Leather seating, Walnut wood trim power steering, ABS, TC, ES and LC as standard.






Engine: DPE-475H
Power: 508BHP
Torque: 480Nm
Reliability: 45.2
Economy: 11.38lt/100Km
Drivetrain: 7 gear RWD
Cost: TBA
Test Track: 2:20.79

[Lothoren]

Its been a while, but here is one of my new creations. The Dalora Nadeon.


The Nadeon goes around:
Airfield: 1:16.35
Test Track: 2:10.60
Green Hell: 7:37.12
Tulsa: 9.91
(Note all times are set with the car in production spec)

Front


Rear


Side



The Nadeon is built to be reasonably light, fast and reliable. Powered by the all new DPE-446H powerplant built specially for the Nadeon. the 446H is an NA V8 with 601hp, 536Nm Torque. The engine is purely built to be reliable. with an average reliablity of 75.3.

Specs

[Lothoren]

Hey all so i have let my gf play around with the game and helped her design 1 or 2 cars, now she would like you guys to share you opinions on her own designed car.

So here i present the Wolf





The wolf is powered by a 4.8l (4756cc) engine throwing out 1203bhp and 1199Nm of Torque to all 4 wheels, through a 5 gear double clutch sequential gearbox. Tops Speed: 198.7

Track times:
Tulsa Drag Strip: 8.72
Airfield: 1:15.74
Test Track: 2:12.53
Green Hell: 7:24.71

Please Note:

A:) This car may be modified at any point
B:) The Engine is still under work
C:) The car is set up for a drag strip
D:) Apologies for any infringement on the use of certain aspects from other companies, Namely the badge of Necronia Automotive