Public Release Build 1414

[HeavySixxer]

I really do not like the new bore stroke sliders, using inches specifically. The hundredths and thousandths really make a difference.

[n9mfk]

I found a small problem in manual test mode the fan in the room does not stay on as long as the engine is running

[statman]

Update 9th Aug 2014

We just had a little dev meeeting to discuss the current state of the open beta and what things to fix next.
The most important issues we want to address / fix at the start of the next week are:

• Fix sandbox flow, unlock engine year, as well as default it to the platform year
• Sort the car body list by year
• Make available all car bodies once past their unlock year
• Stop base safety progression of car bodies 10 years after their unlock year
• Fix freezing bug for <1945

Cheers!
/Killrob

I'm really looking forward to see this fixes and changes coming. You're doing fantastic works devs!!
Currently, I enjoy my first Mid-mounted car making & tuning.
also, I like the way exhaust setting affects power output and torque characteristics more greatly than previous versions. It's more fun to consider proper exhaust tuning than before.
Finally, the new UI isn't my problem and I think it looks cool!

[Discovolante]

The only disappointement with this version, is that there's still not front traverse FWD, some car bodies are totally useless as a FWD car.

[RobtheFiend]

You mean Longitudinal FWD?
I miss the type of gearbox you find in Porsche Cayman (from Audi A4-A6 FWD diesel), can only fit a 1.7l i6 with awd in the large mid engine car body.

[Discovolante]

Yes longitudinal FWD, some bodies can not have more than 1.3L, anything bigger have to be RWD.

[Dragawn]

You mean Longitudinal FWD?
I miss the type of gearbox you find in Porsche Cayman (from Audi A4-A6 FWD diesel), can only fit a 1.7l i6 with awd in the large mid engine car body.

Well, Porsches technically aren't MR/M4, they're RR/R4. Meaning that the engine can sit on the axle or behind, giving more space, although I agree that the current MR shells really don't have a lot of space. As for longitudinal FWD: it's a pretty rare layout, nearly always transverse is used for it, although I think Audi was developing a Longitudinal FWD gearbox for more sporty cars. But yeah, maybe they need a bit more space. In this version everything feels so cramped.

[RobtheFiend]

The Porsche Cayman/Boxter are mid engined. They are making more models than the 911 you know.

[Dragawn]

The Porsche Cayman/Boxter are mid engined. They are making more models than the 911 you know.

Well okay, but an inline 6 isn't the best choice to run with limited length in the engine bay, the Cayman uses a flat 6 (of up to 3,4l), which means only 3 cylinders in the length, instead of 6, although very wide, allowing for bigger cylinders. I think this is the major explanation why they can run relatively big engine sizes.

[Discovolante]

An other thing, why limit 4WD to 1985 and beyond when that setup first came on GT cars in 1969 with the Jensen FF ?

[RobtheFiend]

The Porsche Cayman/Boxter are mid engined. They are making more models than the 911 you know.

Well okay, but an inline 6 isn't the best choice to run with limited length in the engine bay, the Cayman uses a flat 6 (of up to 3,4l), which means only 3 cylinders in the length, instead of 6, although very wide, allowing for bigger cylinders. I think this is the major explanation why they can run relatively big engine sizes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M1

12 cm shorter wheelbase, 3.5l big straight six. Same style of gearbox as Audi A6 FWD and thereby Porsche Cayman.

The gearbox used in Automation Mid longitudinal bodys, i have never seen such layout. Reference pics someone?

[Killrob]

An other thing, why limit 4WD to 1985 and beyond when that setup first came on GT cars in 1969 with the Jensen FF ?

Same thing as always: while there were some early examples, it wasn't really common until mid-80s. Via research into the drivetrain you'll be able to get AWD earlier.

[Discovolante]

An other thing, why limit 4WD to 1985 and beyond when that setup first came on GT cars in 1969 with the Jensen FF ?

Same thing as always: while there were some early examples, it wasn't really common until mid-80s. Via research into the drivetrain you'll be able to get AWD earlier.

The Audi Quattro is from 1980, the problem is that in sanbox mode we don't get R&D so it renders impossible designs that would be entirely possible in that year.

[Kubboz]

It you want to simulate the effects of research, you can always edit your lua file and add some techpool to the design. You need to remember that "possible for someone in that year" is not the same as "possible for anyone in that year".

[Discovolante]

Would it be possible for this to work like forge works in sanbox ? like you can put 4WD on a 1969 car but it will display "requires 4WD research" (that would also concern things like gearboxes).