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Post Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:07 am

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Now that everything is new, i had to think of a new idea. And it comes in the form of this, the Mamba:

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You're probably wondering what this is doing in the performance-dedicated thread. Well, as you may have noticed, it has a new type of name, it's named after a snake, or in general, a reptile. And that's because it belongs to a new category of car for me: An Old-looking car with new tech and silly performance.

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Despite being equipped with premium interior, advanced safety features, power steering and ABS, this car weighs less than 1000kg. Couple that with 556hp, All Wheel Drive, a 7-speed dual-clutch gearbox and 1.16gs of cornering, and the result is an absolute animal! But a civilized one, just not an economical one but it is reliable.

Hope you enjoy :)

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Post Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:20 pm

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Ladies and gentlemen, i proudly introduce to you the new Mantis HP!

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As always, the Mantis HP is a performance benchmark:

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With its 4.2L NA V8 which makes 450hp, AWD and a 7-speed double-clutch gearbox, this car is able to go from 0-100kph in 3.0 seconds and reach 320km/h! It'll also get you around most the circuit faster than most of today's sports cars, including a Ferrari 458, while being more practical, more economical and tamer (as well as cheaper) than the Ferrari.

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For about 100.000€, this is pretty much half the price of the Ferrari 458 while still being able to compete with it as well as live with it. An ideal sports car? It's up to you to decide :)

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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:42 am

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Here's the Weta XX!

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Now this car is what i would call one of the most complete hatchbacks money can buy. It's got 5 seats, a very luxurious interior, advanced safety equipment, AWD, an 8-speed double-clutch gearbox and a 5.0L twin-turbocharged V8. It "only" makes 400hp but the power curve is pretty good:

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As you can see, it makes 350+hp from 3700-6500RPM with a peak of 400hp at 5600RPM.
That makes it do 0-100kph in 3.5 seconds despite the pretty big weight of almost 1700kg.

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This has all you can ask for in a hatchback, other than a really low price tag. It will cost you around 55.000€, which is 5.000 more than the Audi RS3 but in the RS3 the options list is long whereas the Weta comes with everything as standard. Tell me what you think :)

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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:37 am

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On the Weta XX, maybe you could flatten out the torque curve a bit? It looks and performs great in all five categories. From an engineering stand point, it's an incredible car, but as for my own opinion I think it would make that kind of car that you take to the track, drive to get groceries, floor it on the Autobahn, and park in your garage to protect it from weather. ;)

I'll be honest, I thought that price of €55,000 was a bit steep at first, but then I looked harder and now I think that car is a bit underpriced. But like I said, maybe work on the torque curve? Or, if you'd like, I can tweak it for you. :)
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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:06 am

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This engine isn't a traditional "HP-style" engine, it's something similar to the Grizzly XL (in case you've seen it), just much smaller. i know the torque curve looks really bad but it has to be that way for several reasons. 1) i wanted a broad power band and as you can see the engine makes 350+hp for almost 3000RPM, and a flat torque curve would mean that the power would constantly climp and then reach its peak eventually. 2) To flatten the torque curve, i would need to use a sharper cam profile and that would spoil the fuel economy. 3) this isn't a high-revving engine and so low-end torque matters more than high-end power. And even though the torque curve looks pretty bad, you still get 500+Nm from 2200-5700RPM and that's not too shabby, right? :)

edit: By the way, i don't think i ever defined the use of this car. I call it a compact GT car, so it's quite fast and comfortable like a "normal" GT car, but also very practical due to the compact hatchback body.
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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:30 pm

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I see what you mean. Every time the devs talk about turbochargers being buggy, I think of the twin turbos for the V-8s. It's near impossible to get a flat torque curve with turbo spool before 3,000 rpm and make that same power. Basically, you have to choose one of the three: power, flat torque curve, or early spool.
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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:05 pm

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yes, you're right. however for me it's always a choice between flat power curve and flat torque curve. And if an engine is high-revving (like 7.5k+) i prefer to have a flat torque curve because then the power can climb and climb and you as a driver can let the engine sing and enjoy that, like you see in the regular Weta. But with a low-revving engine like in the Weta XX, i find it better to have a flatter power curve because then the power is accessible earlier and longer, it's a plateau rather than a peak. And i think this is the only reason why the Weta XX can do 0-100kph in 3.5 secs with "only" 400hp at almost 1700kg, it's ridiculous :D
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Post Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:15 pm

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That last line explains exactly why I find that car to be brilliant. For my own company, I use a flat torque curve regardless of the application because of - like you said - you can gain power easily. If you open your mind a bit, you would think that your method would be favored on trucks too, so they can rev lower to make good power while still having low-end torque.
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Post Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:16 pm

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now for a car that deserves the place in this performance-dedicated thread more than any other: The Dragonfly SR!
As always, its looks will polarise, some love it, some hate it but one thing is for sure: it shows what it's got! wide arches, big wing, 4 exhausts, aggressive LEDs: this is a car to be feared. Should this car appear in your rear view mirror, it would probably scare you off.

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The engine in this car is still the same 4.0 TT V8 as in the previous generation Dragonfly SR and it still makes 750hp.
Now to sum things up: this car has 20 more horsepower than a Pagani Huayra, better power-to-weight than a supercharged Ariel Atom, AWD and a 7-speed double-clutch gearbox. So what follows now should not be a surprise:

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Also, this is my first car to touch 300km/h on the Automation Track's main straight, Daffy Flyer:

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For all that performance, a fuel consumption of 9.3l/100km and a price tag of 125.000€ is actually very good considering it does the quarter mile a whole second faster than the Lamborghini Aventador. The reason this costs "only" 25.000€ more than the Mantis HP is that, other than the exterior looks, the engine and slight suspension changes this isn't a lot different.

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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:12 am

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I don't really think there's any point in wide arches unless it also has wide tires, it seems you don't edit the tire/wheel size at all
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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:28 am

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look at the stats :) the pics of the car are made in the platform editor where you can't change tyre width.
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Post Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:30 am

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Noporian wrote:I don't really think there's any point in wide arches unless it also has wide tires, it seems you don't edit the tire/wheel size at all


His car has wide tyres. 275 and 305 mm
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Post Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:27 am

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Here's the Buzzard HP!

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The Peregrine will remain as a concept since the devs said hybrid technology won't be in the game, but the Peregrine's spirit (the 1.5L 375hp I4T) lives on in the new Buzzard HP! And because the Buzzard HP is made from carbon fibre and gets super light interior and no entertainment, it weighs just under 1000kg. That makes it pretty fast! :)

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But it's by no means a terryfying thorough bred because of the AWD, traction control, stability control, power steering and ABS. That means even your grandma can drive this car. However, she probably won't use its full potential.

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Unlike the normal Buzzard, this isn't a bargain any more because of the carbon fibre, the AWD, the 7-speed double-clutch gearbox and the high quality engine (which despite the 250hp/L makes for over 66.000km MTBF). So prices will start at around 60.000€ which is still quite a bit cheaper than the new BMW M3.


Also, guys, i thought that i owe you something. And it's the HP versions of the new Eagle family!
The coupe first:

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and here's the saloon:

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Despite making almost twice the power of the Buzzard HP, neither of the Eagle HP's versions is able to keep up with it around the track. The coupe does it in 142.26 seconds, the saloon in 141.56 and i have no idea why the saloon is faster despite more weight and worse drag coefficient. However, the Eagle HP, be it coupe or saloon, is awesome if you want a car for blasting down the Autobahn because it'll be quite a good GT car and obscenely fast as you can tell by the top speed!
The price for each of them will be around 95.000€, so a bit more than the BMW M3/M4 but easily worth it.


That's all for today, i hope you enjoy :)

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Post Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:30 pm

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Hey guys, i'm introducing the new Sparrow HP!

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Featuring a solid 3.0 I6T with 350hp, plenty of torque and a 7-speed double-clutch gearbox, this RWD coupe will do 0-100km/h in 4.5 seconds while using only 5.5l/100km. It'll beat the BMW M235i not only in terms of performance, but also in terms of fuel economy but the Sparrow HP will probably cost a little bit more because it's made from carbon fibre. But it will do the Automation Track in 142.1 seconds, which is quite good for "only" 350hp and RWD.


Also, the new Mantis HP is ready to rock! :)

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With its 4.2L V8 NA with 450hp, it does 0-100km/h in 3.0 seconds, it uses 8.5l/100km and its track time is 138.3 seconds on the Automation Track! :)


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Post Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:26 am

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Hello everyone, today i present you the Eagle HP! Let's start with the Coupe

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And here's the Saloon:

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The engine is still the same 5.2L TT V8 as in the previous generation, for several reasons. Firstly, i think 700hp is enough for a car that rivals BMW M3/M4, Mercedes C63 AMG and Audi RS4. Secondly, it makes a very nice power curve, the last 2000RPM or so it's almost flat. Thirdly, it makes for incredible top speeds (382km/h for the Coupe, 378km/h for the Saloon due to slightly worse drag coefficient). Both do 0-100km/h in 4.4/4.5 seconds, and both will do the Automation Track in about 142 seconds. I know that's not fantastic for a car with that amount of power, but they aren't even made from carbon fibre and the cambers aren't near their sharpest. That's because this is still a car you can live with every day, despite the huge power output.

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