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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:43 am

4V OHV Diesel

Considering the success of the 6BT Cummins diesel, and other diesels that use a similar valvetrain configuration, I wanted to suggest that they be available for Diesel engines.
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:11 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

like.. wait what? any pictures of the head? would love to see that
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:17 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

We'll patch them in tomorrow!
(you know the diesel deal...)
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:45 am

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xABSOLUTIONx wrote:like.. wait what? any pictures of the head? would love to see that


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Looks like it has 2 rockers and pushrods each activating 2 valves.
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Post Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:24 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Well we don't have any Diesels at all yet :P
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:37 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Look up ARAO or Thunderpower heads.
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:45 pm

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Diesel engines are HARD to model in any condition, they VARY highly between engines ( no lie I work on them way to much, more than I should ) due to some having 10-20% more horse than the exact same model with the same hours on it, I use hours for almost any engines, car mileage is irrelevant as hours provide me a good idea of how much a engine was tortured since I assume the engine was run at redline the entire time... Besides that.. it is a whole nother modeling system, since you know, they squirt fuel in and compress it with insane amounts of compression the lowest, absolute LOWEST I've ever seen, though this might have changed was a 10:1, and this was on a generator for a crop field set up so idiots could dump gasoline, or diesel in it and not have any issues... it was very odd say the least. to the most about 25 or better.. depending on their turbo system. This added in to the fact some are two cycle, which basically mean they REQUIRE a turbo to run, while four strokes are kinda newish ( might be wrong on that but I've worked on old two stroke turbo diesels 1923's etc ). So this would require a entire rebuild of the current models they are using, hence it MIGHT be downloadable content way later when they've had more fun than they should have..

Plus a little rant spiel for everyone who OWNS a diesel truck, not a truck that tows a trailer either.
For god sakes stop running in my f'ing fields or any farmers field thinking your truck is " bad !@# " or adding exhaust pipes where they don't belong, or " smoking " them cause you think it is cool, your trucs before thk ends up in a shop like mine 9/10 with worn out pieceeir time, even had one guy break his timing chain, not a fun deal. Had a few others that broke their axles, destroyed their CVC joints. Oh and lift kits. Dear god leave the truck where it belongs, it is so much more tiresome on a engine to have a monster truck tires, plus seriously 400 + for a pair ? Maybe a little less.. but come on, I've seen guys run theirs to the BARE metal liners just cause they have to buy a tire at a time.. no lie.. K end rant, have fun with your truck though, your loss, my money.
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Post Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:49 pm

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

That was an awesome mechanic-rant! :)

But yeah, Diesels are pretty different and complex beasts, so best left until we've finished the actual game.
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Post Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:33 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Killrob wrote:We'll patch them in tomorrow!
(you know the diesel deal...)

My bad, I thought diesel was in the release. :(
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Post Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:42 am

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Leximu wrote:Diesel engines are HARD to model in any condition, they VARY highly between engines ( no lie I work on them way to much, more than I should ) due to some having 10-20% more horse than the exact same model with the same hours on it, I use hours for almost any engines, car mileage is irrelevant as hours provide me a good idea of how much a engine was tortured since I assume the engine was run at redline the entire time... Besides that.. it is a whole nother modeling system, since you know, they squirt fuel in and compress it with insane amounts of compression the lowest, absolute LOWEST I've ever seen, though this might have changed was a 10:1, and this was on a generator for a crop field set up so idiots could dump gasoline, or diesel in it and not have any issues... it was very odd say the least. to the most about 25 or better.. depending on their turbo system. This added in to the fact some are two cycle, which basically mean they REQUIRE a turbo to run, while four strokes are kinda newish ( might be wrong on that but I've worked on old two stroke turbo diesels 1923's etc ). So this would require a entire rebuild of the current models they are using, hence it MIGHT be downloadable content way later when they've had more fun than they should have..

Plus a little rant spiel for everyone who OWNS a diesel truck, not a truck that tows a trailer either.
For god sakes stop running in my f'ing fields or any farmers field thinking your truck is " bad !@# " or adding exhaust pipes where they don't belong, or " smoking " them cause you think it is cool, your trucs before thk ends up in a shop like mine 9/10 with worn out pieceeir time, even had one guy break his timing chain, not a fun deal. Had a few others that broke their axles, destroyed their CVC joints. Oh and lift kits. Dear god leave the truck where it belongs, it is so much more tiresome on a engine to have a monster truck tires, plus seriously 400 + for a pair ? Maybe a little less.. but come on, I've seen guys run theirs to the BARE metal liners just cause they have to buy a tire at a time.. no lie.. K end rant, have fun with your truck though, your loss, my money.

My dad has the - AWESOME - Duramax LML (newest model), and it uses the lowest of all these heavy duty pickups (16:1). As for the lift kit deal, I'll give you a scenario and you tell me what you think: If we lift our truck 6" w/ 35" tires, the rear end swap from 3.73:1 to 4.10:1 makes it run no different then stock height and tires with 3.73:1. We aren't doing a 6" lift, he wants to do a 4" because you can keep stock shocks and use simple spacers (not body lift), according to Rough Country. Honestly, I like the smoke stacks idea, but the DEF or DPF delete (I haven't learned these yet) they do to make them smoke isn't cool, in fact, no diesel looks cool doing that. It's bad on the environment and doesn't it consume more diesel when they smoke?
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Post Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:13 pm

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

I was about to suggest this too but glad I searched.

Any chance of the option being added of say Diesel and turbo diesels being added. Be useful when creating little cars and putting in a small diesel... be able to get like 60mpg haha

But also, be cool to have diesel motors to, that way we could set up companies in the game that just build diesel engines...
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Post Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:54 pm

Re: 4V OHV Diesel

Disel engine i need Disel are you hefing disel in your game?

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