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Post Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:28 am

Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

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Post Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:55 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

Yes it is possible. I believe the air/fuel mixture you choose is the full throttle air/fuel mixture. When you use Direct Injection and a power mixture of 15:1, the cruising mixture is something like 25:1 or close to that. It should say the cruising mixture when you are using this slider. But... if you are talking power mixture below 15:1, I am sure it is possible, just probably wont produce much power.
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Post Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:52 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

Between 12 - 12.5:1 seems to produce the most power.

That is what the real world tuners get when they map real world engines.

Chemical correct ratio for normal gasoline is 14.7:1.

These are for max power, cruising is leaner ratios.
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Post Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:24 am

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

I know for a fact that the ideal fuel mixture is called a Stoichiometry mixture :geek:
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Post Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:10 am

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

Geek warning! ;) :ugeek:
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Post Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:12 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

The mixture with the best fuel efficiency is 15.6. anything lower than this will will result in less efficiency.
keep in mind this is at full throttle and for MPI
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:36 am

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

Then why isn't the minimum mixture 15.6:1?
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:46 am

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

09webbad wrote:Then why isn't the minimum mixture 15.6:1?


The mixture number in the game (that you set) is the number for "power enrichment". The cruise number is also given and can go into the 30s if you use direct injection.

In real life or in the game, 15.6 afr's are dangerously lean at full throttle.
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:47 am

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

the lowest possible is 15:1 and the highest you can go is 10:1 that is what Daffy and the other programmers built in...although I would like their feedback on this please
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:22 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

Even 15:1 is so ridiculously lean for full power mixtures, you'd have a very hard time making that not explode and melt pistons etc IRL.
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:25 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

I run my engines usually around 13.3:1 to 12.5:1 or even right up at 10.0:1 if its a super powerful V8 big block with lots of BOOOOOOOST on it
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:41 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

very lean mixtures like 15 or less have difficulty igniting, just like ones that are too rich. unless the engine has suffcient compression and advance.also, it does burn very hot, but will not necessarily knock.

as a note: diesels operate with a very wide range of mixtures. they work with anything between 3 and 48:1. and stoic is 14.6 for diesels (yeah , pretty close to petrols. after all,they are related, but if it runs at this mixture, it will hit 6000 in less than a second if not under load)
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:52 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

speaking of lean burns and economy in general - take a look at Hondas VTEC-E it disengages 1 intake valve at low RPMs to allow leaner burns and make it more economical

read up - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC#VTEC-E

i have no idea on the mix values though
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Post Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:47 pm

Re: Is it possible to have Fuel Mixture bellow 15:1

I think of VTEC as the work of the Devil myself so it has variable Mixes me thinks
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