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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:27 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Man. My 2nd car is definitely made for tighter tracks. And my 1st one goes through fuel like a fleet of Hummers. At least it's not (terribly) slow. Maybe I'll get some laughs out of it.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:33 am

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That tire shredding tho :o

Does wheel spin increase tire wear?
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:37 am

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I have to say, it was deeply entertaining watching half the field (including both my entries) run out of gas in less than twenty laps. :lol:

I think my strategy at this point will be to abandon the Ectophylla and concentrate on making the HHR Special competitive. Given that reliability doesn't seem to be as severe an issue as I feared, I'll back up the current design and see how much I can push the current engine if I let myself drop to 30 engine reliability. If that's successful, I'll back it up again and do a bit of handling tweaks, see if I can't make it better in the corners too. I'll probably lose a little bit of range, but that's probably no more than one extra pit stop in 147 laps, and if I can gain .3 s/lap in exchange it'll be worth it.
Matti wrote:That tire shredding tho :o

Does wheel spin increase tire wear?

Yep. It's not a simple "x% wheelspin -> y% tyre wear", but BROBOT does note when the car is burning rubber and increase tyre wear as appropriate.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:39 am

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Very pleased with that. I think I've got a competitive car here. Fuel lasted me 19 laps which I think is a fair compromise for the performance. Only trouble now is tyre wear, 25% could be improved on.

Can I just say though...Absurdist; 37.72 kg of fuel per lap??! Is your car a cross-channel ferry?
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:40 am

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I actually didn't expect my 10L V12 to last the 20 laps... Sometimes the world just surprises you :D
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:51 am

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based on my pit strategy for fuel and tire wear, fuel lasted nearly 2x as long as I planned for..... so... that means its time for a more thirsty engine... right?
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:51 am

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that was awesome :D Laggator did 1 lap more than I anticipated! So it needs only 29 pitstops to finish the race :lol:
Daaaamn that tyre wear...And I intended to add chamber for race.

So how do we estimate, based on this practise, how often to change drivers?
Are we allowed to keep 2 cars?
Is there a way to do endurance strategy based on laps instead of minutes. Because my cars do exactly 5 and 20 laps and there is no way to judge how much time exactly it will take.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:56 am

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Out of curiosity, am I the only one in the top 10 running an SUV + muffled exhaust with super comfy suspension? Its all about them creature comforts for my driver!
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:02 am

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TheBobWiley wrote:Out of curiosity, am I the only one in the top 10 running an SUV + muffled exhaust with super comfy suspension? Its all about them creature comforts for my driver!


Mine have to put up with a bare bones interior and no noise reduction. I'm asuming you've got a leather interior, aircon, cup holders, 8 track, bang & Oulfsen speakers, the lot? :lol:
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:03 am

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So this test didn't include our pit stops right? I had pits every 20 laps, but only got to 19. Just want to make sure before I notch it down a lap or two.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:04 am

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I am really impressed with Absurdist's second car - lap time under 2:20 and minuscule fuel consumption. We may all be doomed.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:05 am

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AirJordan wrote:So how do we estimate, based on this practise, how often to change drivers?
Are we allowed to keep 2 cars?
Is there a way to do endurance strategy based on laps instead of minutes. Because my cars do exactly 5 and 20 laps and there is no way to judge how much time exactly it will take.

Hm, how do you estimate? Basically the choice is once or twice. If your driver fatigue goes up fast in comparison, make 2, else make 1. Or always gamble and make 1. :)

There is no way to do strategy based on laps. The sprint strategy (percent based) and endurance strategy (time based) both allow for race seasons on tracks with different lengths. You don't have to revise your strategy for each race. It's a flexible and robust system. You can do what you like though: Just set your regular stop interval and emergency tyre wear threshold very (unrealistically) high. Then the driver will come to the pits when the tank is empty.

KielEire wrote:So this test didn't include our pit stops right? I had pits every 20 laps, but only got to 19. Just want to make sure before I notch it down a lap or two.

No, this was only a practice session. Engine failures, crashes, fights, damage from driver errors is deactivated in practise sessions, too.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:08 am

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Watching the footage, I am Very pleased with my fuel consumption figures. I was able to go over 45 minutes on a tank, which is what I was shooting for. I really need to work on tire wear though! 28/26% is not acceptable for me.

One note, if in-game automation gives us a time of say 2:24.35 on this track, does that mean my driver is really pushing the limits of my car when he gets a best time of 2:23.04 ? I was expecting the automation time to be an ideal, but it looks like more of a conservative average.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:21 am

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The Automation time is a standing start but with an empty fuel tank and tyres in perfect condition. The driver is at his limit in both cases.
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Post Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:26 am

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Der Bayer wrote:
AirJordan wrote:So how do we estimate, based on this practise, how often to change drivers?
Are we allowed to keep 2 cars?
Is there a way to do endurance strategy based on laps instead of minutes. Because my cars do exactly 5 and 20 laps and there is no way to judge how much time exactly it will take.

Hm, how do you estimate? Basically the choice is once or twice. If your driver fatigue goes up fast in comparison, make 2, else make 1. Or always gamble and make 1. :)

There is no way to do strategy based on laps. The sprint strategy (percent based) and endurance strategy (time based) both allow for race seasons on tracks with different lengths. You don't have to revise your strategy for each race. It's a flexible and robust system. You can do what you like though: Just set your regular stop interval and emergency tyre wear threshold very (unrealistically) high. Then the driver will come to the pits when the tank is empty.

KielEire wrote:So this test didn't include our pit stops right? I had pits every 20 laps, but only got to 19. Just want to make sure before I notch it down a lap or two.

No, this was only a practice session. Engine failures, crashes, fights, damage from driver errors is deactivated in practise sessions, too.



Fights!!!!!!!!!!

**prepares for battle**

So, turbo car only slightly faster than the NA car (less than 1/2 second) and guzzles gasoline like a college kid at a frat party on a kegstand. On the upside, my fatigue didn't seem as high as others were, and not a single driver error. NA car finished all 20 laps and could have easily gone 2-3 more if needed. Tire wear for both was horrendous, however. Decisions, decisions.
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