BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

[Puffster]

Thanks for the great reviews, fun to watch and got a few ideas on how to improve for a future event, brakes for instance were suboptimal. As for some of the weird choices like 4 seats and such, i had most of the setup tuned how i liked it, and needed a few extra kilos as well as better weight distribution. Did not know about the 4x4 until races were on so derp on that. Look forward to the continuatiion of the series, keep up the great work GenJeFT and Packbat!

[TheBobWiley]

Looking forward to my car review, waiting patiently to hear your reaction to my front tires and camber settings

[AirJordan]

@Packbat and @GenJeFT thanks for great reviews but my car is totally glitched!
Yes I've got fixtures (nice ones), no I did not go for that chopped back in trim section, yes I did make a mistake with engine tuning and there is absolutely no hard feeling for you pointing that out - a was looking forward to that so there will be no next time failure (riso now showed me how it should be - the more you know), I do not know yet much about suspension so I went from sport and fiddle with it (and I am very pleased with cornering values), my ATT time should be 2.22.9, my weight 100kg lower and distribution better.
Tanks for taking your time doing this it's nice to be able to see what others came up with.

EDIT: DerBayer is there any chance to verify that current version of my car racing in brobot isn't glitched as this one? That could be the case of me doing 20 places worse than in pre-season. Or it's just that engine...

[iRaptor]

Der Bayer I'd be glad to have an explanation about my car doing 20 places worse aswell

[Der Bayer]

DerBayer is there any chance to verify that current version of my car racing in brobot isn't glitched as this one? That could be the case of me doing 20 places worse than in pre-season. Or it's just that engine...

You can compare your Trump card with the ingame values. If the Major stats like power, weight and cornering match then there is no problem.

[Packbat]

@AirJordan: Y'know, the files from the BRCTool are fully compatible with Automation. If everything looks right on your trump card, you can send GenJeFT and I the last .zip file you sent Der Bayer, and we can load that into the game - should be fixed.

[AirJordan]

DerBayer is there any chance to verify that current version of my car racing in brobot isn't glitched as this one? That could be the case of me doing 20 places worse than in pre-season. Or it's just that engine...

You can compare your Trump card with the ingame values. If the Major stats like power, weight and cornering match then there is no problem.

Trump cards and sheets are correct. Oh damn you lack of tuning knowledge.

@AirJordan: Y'know, the files from the BRCTool are fully compatible with Automation. If everything looks right on your trump card, you can send GenJeFT and I the last .zip file you sent Der Bayer, and we can load that into the game - should be fixed.

I know it saved my ass couple of times will do that, thanks for the effort

[Puffster]

Just a quick check to make sure: Is the race still on for the weekend? Quite eager to see the next episode evolve, and have to plan the weekend soon

[pyrlix]

The third race of the

British Racing Challenge

will commence at the following times and can be watched LIVE

  Code:

Sacramento (U.S.A. - California)       Saturday, 20. Februar 2016, 10:00:00 PST UTC-8 hours
Austin (U.S.A. - Texas)                Saturday, 20. Februar 2016, 12:00:00 CST UTC-6 hours
New York (U.S.A. - New York)           Saturday, 20. Februar 2016 13:00:00 EST UTC-5 hours
São Paulo (Brazil - São Paulo)         Saturday, 20. Februar 2016, 16:00:00 BRST UTC-2 hours 
Corresponding UTC (GMT)                Saturday, 20. Februar 2016, 18:00:00
Central Europe                         Saturday, 20. Februar 2016, 19:00:00 CET  UTC+1 hour   
Bangkok (Thailand)                     Sunday, 21. Februar 2016, 01:00:00 ICT  UTC+7 hours 
Melbourne (Australia - Victoria)       Sunday, 21. Februar 2016, 05:00:00 AEDT UTC+11 hours
Wellington (New Zealand)               Sunday, 21. Februar 2016, 07:00:00 NZDT UTC+13 hours


You will find the live stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na-f_VPLbSg

[Packbat]

...hmm. I'm trying to figure out who in the top 10 is fast in the rain and who is slow by looking at Silverstone again, but it's not especially easy to parse out. If I cancel out the effects of pit stops (approximately) and compare qualifying positions to race results, though, it looks like Absurdist and Der Bayer may lose a little time to rain and marcus817 and mattmr2 will probably gain. So keep an eye on those latter two particularly - assuming no bad luck or bad pit strategy, they may have a very good race coming.

[Riso]

Look at the drive:sport ratios. The better it is the faster the car ought to go around the track in comparison.

[Packbat]

@Riso: That can't be it, though. iRaptor has a ratio of 1.31 and Packbat has a ratio of 0.83, but I was catching iRaptor when the track was wetter and falling behind as it dried.

[Der Bayer]

I noticed that cars which are close to their grip limit during acceleration (because of lots of power) will perform worse than cars with low power. Tyre width is the same, so the low-powered cars don't have to cut down acceleration during rain as much as the high-powered cars.

Edit: Please send in your strategy updates within the next 24 hours. Thanks!

[Packbat]

@Der Bayer: ...that makes a lot of sense. It never occurred to me, but that makes perfect sense: in full wet conditions, you're losing ~20% grip, and there are definitely people within that distance of their maximum grip for 80-120 acceleration.

Heck, here's my acceleration grip curve.

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Compare that to Puffster's - and then compare our relative performance in the wet vs. our relative performance in the dry. That is a key design tip for future seasons of the BRC: excess grip for 80-120 acceleration!

Edit: It's not purely an amount-of-power thing - it's power vs. grip. I have an extra 25 hp on Puffster, but thanks to the car body I went with I have a lot more weight in the tail than Puffster does.

[squidhead]

This is very good info, I will definetly do a lot of things differently next time I'm building for BRC