BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

[Speedemon]

I am trying to send in an updated version of my car and the BRC tool is not working. I can scroll through my trims, but when I choose I get an error message like everyone else is getting.

[Absurdist]

I hope my cars speed transfers well into B-B-B-BROBOT. On the times you guys are saying it should do rather well I think. Just to clarify, is safety relevant for anything? The crash damage perhaps?

Also, post what the error says and I'll try to help find the solution.

[Speedemon]

This is the error:

[Absurdist]

Squidhead had that problem too, for him it was an issue with an empty family group.

So, see if you have a car with no trims, if so, delete it, see if that works. Seems the program doesn't like empty trims.

That post and fix was on page 25 if you want to see the original post I am referring to.

[Speedemon]

Worked!

[Packbat]

@Absurdist: I believe that's the plan:

Weight and safety have any repercussion on crashes/car damage?
The overall car reliability have some influences too?

Good idea! Currently it is based on durability (avg. reliability). But maybe your stats work better. I'll include something like that or maybe a mixture of safety, reliability and weight.

Would any of the people whose cars took damage in the first pre-season test care to comment on their stats?

[TheBobWiley]

Running 5.8 safety, gonna gamble with my drivers life for this pre-season test anyway. If I take damage we will see how bad it is at this low a safety level. Also interested to see how my tire wear goes, probably only need to switch tires once when I stop for fuel. Also running slicks into fairly wet conditions and no inter. switch over, straight to wets, trying to keep stops to a minimum so my top speed can blast me away from everyone else

[nerd]

I managed to get my problem sorted all out (same problem as speedemon, and same solution too)
So, I decided to enter a cross-breed between a Rado and a generic commie car. The commies made the platform, body and engine block, while Rado tuned the engine, installed a second carburetor, installed a less restrictive intake, and increased the redline. Rado also installed advanced safety, as the original had none.

[Packbat]

List of incidents with damage caused in the first pre-season test race (hand-copied, errors my own):

• Pyrlix: Driver Error: 93.1% - Damage 64.24%
• Tycondero: Driver Error: 87.8% - Damage 15.28%
• CRASH! Pyrlix (10.3%) -> acemaster25 (21.7%)
• 8bs: Driver Error: 92.3% - Damage 4.63%
• cwrules: Driver Error: 86.8% - Damage 25.75%
• NormanVauxhall: Driver Error: 98.7% - Damage 5.77%
• Killrob: Driver Error: 87.3% - Damage 66.98%
• HighOctaneLove: Driver Error: 91.9% - Damage 44.29%
• conan: Driver Error: 85.9% - Damage 30.47%
• mattmr2: Driver Error: 93.1% - Damage 45.65%
• conan: Driver Error: 84.3% - Damage 68.86%
• Luilakkie: Driver Error: 99.8% - Damage 10.96%
• Tycondero: Driver Error: 78.8% - Damage 24.72%
• Denta: Driver Error: 90.1% - Damage 90.46%
• Robthefiend: Driver Error: 94.8% - Damage 21.09%
• Leo9613: Driver Error: 93.6% - Damage 55.52%
• Leo9613: Driver Error: 96.9% - Damage 58.18%
• Denta: Driver Error: 89.4% - Damage 7.53%
• Luilakkie: Driver Error: 83.4% - Damage 27.27%
• cwrules: Driver Error: 84.6% - Damage 22.28%
• HighOctaneLove: Driver Error: 81.6% - Damage 25.37%
• UMGaming: Driver Error: 78.7% - Damage 26.89%

Looking at the summary screen at the I missed at least one incident with mattmr2 - he took ~2.6% more damage than the one incident I caught. (This suggests that he had an incident with only 2.6% damage, which confirms what Denta demonstrates: the amount of damage in an incident can vary enormously.)

Again, if anyone on this list would like to volunteer their car's Safety, Avg. Reliability, and/or Weight, the above data might provide people with a ballpark estimate of how flimsy they can make their cars.

[Packbat]

Sorry for flooding the thread, but I just realized these questions got lost in the backlog somewhere:

Quick question to Der Bayer: if you take a pit stop for rain tyres, does that count as an emergency pit stop for scheduled pit stop purposes? I want to make sure I'm minimizing pit stops as effectively as possible.

Sorry, another question, too: if you pit in because you ran out of fuel, does that count as an emergency pit stop for replacing scheduled pit stop purposes?

[Pokerking1993]

Can't wait to see how everyone does in the event!

[Absurdist]

Packbat, why are you so awesome?

For reference in the next test, 0 safety* with approximately 56 reliability and 880kg weight. (Can only guess, have changed my car recently).

*That's only five less safety than Bob

[Packbat]

@Absurdist: Excessive exposure to Martin Gardner as a child.

(My car has 17.4 safety, 54 reliability, 1103 kg weight. Hurrah, steel!)

[UMGaming]

My car har 16-17 safety on that version of the car

[Packbat]

At the risk of my questions never being answered again: it occurs to me that the no-inters strategy might be best thought of as a bet that you won't have extended periods of drizzle during the race. The wets at full wet seem to be ~25 seconds/lap slower at the Automation Test Track than the drys at full dry (~2:22 vs. ~2:47, more or less, for the leaders), and the grip advantage of inters is much less than half the difference between those. If we assume that during optimal conditions for intermediates they're ~10 seconds/lap faster than either drys or wets (probably an overestimate), and you assume that between traversing pit row and the stop itself pitting in to change tyres costs you 20-30 seconds (probably more often toward the top end of that range), then you need a minimum of 2 laps of ideal inters conditions to break even - in other words, five minutes. And under more pessimistic assumptions, you need at least twice that.

...suddenly a no-inters strategy starts to look viable to me.