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Post Fri May 08, 2015 10:36 pm

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WHAT. IMPOSSIBRU.

Seriously my lotus should not be winning any races whatsoever. I may have tuned it but it was always meant to be undriveable. Also when I say I tuned it, I actually ran it on Green Hell, not any of the tracks listed fot this contest :P
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strop wrote:I may have tuned it but it was always meant to be undriveable.


Given that our cars are driven by computers I'm not sure why the surprise is warranted. Turbo lag isn't even simulated at this point, is it?
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Sayonara wrote:
strop wrote:I may have tuned it but it was always meant to be undriveable.


Given that our cars are driven by computers I'm not sure why the surprise is warranted. Turbo lag isn't even simulated at this point, is it?


Drivability is still considered to be a strong factor on certain tracks... I actually don't know most of the tracks we're running on, but from what I've gathered from track building and discussions with devs, there's an amalgamated statistic called "track sportiness" and "track drivability" which does penalise you if the sportiness of the track itself rises above 0, or has elevation changes. It's far from perfect, seeing as we don't have braking into corners and variable speed in corners, but it's there. As for turbo lag itself, I'm not entirely sure, I assumed the value was derived from the shape of the torque curve.

In this case my surprise is more due to the fact I've strayed from my usual suspension setup, which carries a massive penalty on drivability and cornering speed. I'm doing at least a good 5-6 seconds slower around Green Hell than I could be doing.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 12:16 am

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Sayonara wrote:
strop wrote:I may have tuned it but it was always meant to be undriveable.


Given that our cars are driven by computers I'm not sure why the surprise is warranted. Turbo lag isn't even simulated at this point, is it?


Turbo lag is simulated, look at your boost bar and where you have no boost is your "lag", when they implement 90s-00s turbo tech you will see the spool RPMs drop.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 12:22 am

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Strop, and what do you think that my group B inspired racer has as drivability? I have a 3.0 turbo with 665 hp and tons of negative quality. This warrants about 10 drivability and 45 sportiness. The difference between our cars must be on the aero, I'm running on full downforce mode for this challenge, so you'll win on faster tracks, whereas my drag will slow me down.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 3:49 am

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Second heaviest and limited by a 4 speed auto I like how the Knight is still able to mix it up in the middle of the pack.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 4:11 am

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Leonardo9613 wrote:Strop, and what do you think that my group B inspired racer has as drivability? I have a 3.0 turbo with 665 hp and tons of negative quality. This warrants about 10 drivability and 45 sportiness.


LOL no wonder our times are so close then. Our overall stats seem to be very close. And yes because I tuned for Green Hell I actually dropped downforce a bit. Looks like it'll be pretty close most of the way then.
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i can't wait for pikes peak!!
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 10:24 am

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Seems like we are having two separate duels in the top 4.
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Here is today result at Laguna Seca!

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Post Sat May 09, 2015 8:19 pm

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That consistency, it can only be one thing. LHE has mastered not winning, but not losing either.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 8:27 pm

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Yes, I believe this is my 3rd 16th place finish as well. Not last, but always near the bottom. Consistency ftw! :cry:
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 8:36 pm

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I am slightly bemused by the performance of my CR-X given that it should be much slower on paper.

BlastersPewPew wrote:Turbo lag is simulated, look at your boost bar and where you have no boost is your "lag", when they implement 90s-00s turbo tech you will see the spool RPMs drop.


That's not turbo lag, that's the boost threshold - the engine speed where the flow of exhaust gas is sufficient to spool up the turbocharger. Turbo lag is when you have a significant delay between throttle actuation and delivery of power while above the boost threshold because the turbocharger needs to spool back up. Basically, the engine's delivery of power "lags" behind the throttle input.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 8:42 pm

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Well the response stat of most turbo engines is below that on it's n/a counterpart.
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Post Sat May 09, 2015 10:08 pm

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Brilliant duel with Leo! This is most entertaining.

Also, when it comes to the Horse index, the lower it is, the more annoyed I get :lol:
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