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Post Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:29 am

Supercars won't support big engines.

All 3 supercars have a similar problem. They all do not support big engines. I can fit a V8 and a Inline 4, but it has to be the smallest size for the game to accept it. They won't "fit" a Inline 6 at smallest size.

With a V8 in a Small 10s Supercar, I only managed it to get up to 370 BHP and 240 LB-FT Torque on a Crossplane V8 (With Turbocharger).
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^That is the biggest size I can make with a V8 for it to accept. Any bigger and it will say "Engine size too big"

Sorry if this topic has already been posted, but it's a big problem.

Cars with this issue:
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Post Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:34 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Well, the small one is quite small. Placement also matters, transverse v. longitudinal. On the larger one, you can comfortably fit large V8s.
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Post Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:56 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

To my experience you can easily fit a 7 litre engine in the large supercar (which is realistic I'd say) in longitudinal, and a little bit smaller than 4 litre V8 in transverse position on the small "supercar".
Also please note that AWD reduces the max engine size.
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:54 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

I'd like to see the supercars point the transmission to the front towards a center differential that splits to front and back axles allowing a bigger engine.
The engine would have to sit above the axle though.

I don't know, is that a thing?
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Post Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:54 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

bundyaxl wrote:I'd like to see the supercars point the transmission to the front towards a center differential that splits to front and back axles allowing a bigger engine.
The engine would have to sit above the axle though.

I don't know, is that a thing?

Yes it is... but that's rear mounted engines then, i.e. NOT mid-engined and thus not in the game yet.
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Post Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:11 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Maybe the layout of later v12 Lambos and Bugatti Veyron?

From the front: front diff, shaft, transferbox, gearbox, engine, rear diff.
This will put the gearbox between the seats/under the body.
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Post Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:01 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

I'm not looking to build anything practical. Let me say that now.

But, IF the game is going to humor me and let me build a 10 liter beast of a V8, I would very much so like something to put it in. :D
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Post Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:59 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

mrcrawford84 wrote:I'm not looking to build anything practical. Let me say that now.

But, IF the game is going to humor me and let me build a 10 liter beast of a V8, I would very much so like something to put it in. :D

I don't get you people :s You already can! :) Even into the tiny golf body you can fit an NA 10.9L DOHC V8. So where is the problem exactly? Doesn't that humor you enough? ;)
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Post Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:47 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

I'm actually now having the same issue as DKR27. I have a mid-mounted AWD setup with the larger supercar body:

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But just as DK said, the game is forcing me into a very tiny engine, even with a 4-cyl:

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The smaller version body has the same issue for me, as well. Neither will accept above about 1220cc.
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Post Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:21 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

I have a 8.6 turbo v8 in the big body, as for the small it's more a lotus evora type will be good with v6's as it is you can get a 3-4 liter v8 in them though it takes some work just remember wishbone and awd take away from engine room.
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Post Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:58 pm

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Large mid-engine body with Longitudinal AWD and an OHV DI throttle-per-cylinder 3.99L engine sitting under the body. It has Macpherson Strut F/R.

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I really do believe I could fit a bigger engine, however, my 6.2L LS3 engine will NOT fit. At least, not with AWD on it. ;)

With RWD, I could fit the 7.0L LS7 with no problems, using Longitudinal RWD setup in the same body.

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There is no tuning on these cars at all. The 7L is completely impossible to drive, but it does fit. (it might be tweakable) The 4L is semi-drivable, but with some tweaking could certainly be a streetable car. It may or may not be possible to fit the 10.8L, I don't know. I don't build engines that large. ;)
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Post Sun Oct 05, 2014 4:44 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Transversely it can (just barely) fit 6,4L turbocharged engine producing over 1500hp AWD, double wishbone F/R, and the stats are really good, far cry from impossible to drive. The only problem is cooling that beast (over 2000kJ/s). Your problem are wheels from a small hatch trying to tame so many horses... (seriously, 185mm for 500hp? You want to kill the driver? :D)
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Post Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:09 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Seems like a setup for Bonneville Salt Flats. Skinny tires and lots of power.

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Post Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:00 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Here's the post with my 8.6tt v8 file, full quality slider and tuned to 2728hp
http://automationgame.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=4860&start=40#p47358
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Post Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:13 am

Re: Supercars won't support big engines.

Well, there was no playing with settings on the actual car. I set up enough cooling to get the reliability over 0 and that's about it. In fact, I didn't even adjust wheel wells to accommodate anything larger than default settings. I was mainly pointing out an engine larger than 2.5L would fit pretty easily in the car, both with and without AWD. ;) And my car isn't slated for entry into any contests. I personally don't fancy the body too much. It just isn't my style. I like muscle cars and GT coupes, not supercars.
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