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Post Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:14 am

Variable length intake.

I was playing around with the Dynomation program I purchased some time ago, designing a theoretical 14.0l 48valve V-12 (based on the Chevy bigblock, with Thunderpower 4valve pushrod heads).
In that program you can make a comparison of up to 4 engines, so i made 2 different intake lengths, and noted down the differences.

The long intake is 3.56 times longer than the short one.

Long intake max torque @4000rpm, short -508nm. (short -286hp)
Long intake max power @6200, short +140hp.

Short intake max torque @5600, long -129nm.
Short intake max power @6800, long -273hp.

The crossover point is @5200rpm, over that the short intake is better.
But both are nearly identical under 2400rpm.


So between 2600rpm and 5000rpm the long intake gives a torque increase of minimum 3,5% up to maximum 37% then down to 6,5%
At 4000rpm the difference is 286hp and 508nm. (In 1995 the BMW M3 3.0l engine had 286hp and 320nm. :twisted: A BMW 750i (5.4l) from the same year has 490nm. :mrgreen: )

I know that the workload would be significant, but I think that, maybe as a later update adding variable intakes, this would give a very real increase in effectivness to the engines.
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Post Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:24 am

Re: Variable length intake.

Can't you post a picture of the dyno test?
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Post Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:57 am

Re: Variable length intake.

It's only a test in theory. The engine only exists inside my head.

It would be fun to try and build it, but it needs a custom casted engine block, custom cylinder heads, custom crank, oil pan, cam shaft, intake manifold, ignition system.

The only parts already on the market are : pistons, valvetrain, connecting rods, cam drive, water pump.

The cost would be very, very high.


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Post Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:34 am

Re: Variable length intake.

I think he just meant screenshots of dyno graph from dynomation.
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Post Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:55 am

Re: Variable length intake.

I don't have a way to post images, but can email him a screenshot.

Or someone here on the forum that can post an image.
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Post Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:24 am

Re: Variable length intake.

post them on http://www.imageshack.us and then link it here, simple :)
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Post Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:06 pm

Re: Variable length intake.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/440/ ... medium.jpg

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Hope this works.
edit: Heh , it worked.^^
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Post Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:39 pm

Re: Variable length intake.

Not just Variable length intakes, but multi-runner intakes, too.
Like the Aussie Ford Falcon, Hyundai Terracan V6, few mitsubishi V6's, that have two sets of intake paths, a long and short, with throttle butterflies and an actuator.
Like variable cam timing, but for your inlet manifold.
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Post Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:45 pm

Re: Variable length intake.

Yeah, they're pretty sweet, they'll turn up eventually :)
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Post Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:46 pm

Re: Variable length intake.

Variable length intake from an BMW I think
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Post Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:59 am

Re: Variable length intake.

Ridicol wrote:Variable length intake from an BMW I think
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That's a really elegant way of doing it, I like it!
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