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Post Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:57 pm

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strop wrote:I had a wall of text prepared in reply to your last post. The larger the wall became, the more I realised, I don't understand the point of your post. Are you saying the numbers reflect the car well enough that there's no need to add any editorial or speculate on what the numbers may reflect in terms of the experience of a car? What does this mean in terms of reviewing hypercars, as opposed to anything else? And what then is the point of doing anything more than posting all the screenshots of the stats in detail for everybody to draw their own conclusions?


I simply said the game does a good job with its calculations, i didnt say anything about not having other calculations for my reviews. Do you just like giving me a hard time or something strop :P

Your also just way over thinking a simple statement "All the classes of cars already have specific score weights based on their real world counterpart class and in-game class."
If you look at the review format there are a total of 8 scored categories, without weighting, each category is 12.5% of the cars total score. In the case of a hyper car(you can argue the definition of hyper car all day long the internet), such as a Lamborghini Aventador, the performance and sportiness and handling categorizes have a higher weight to them, each being worth 18.75%, in contrast comfort and cost have a lower weight, and thus worth 6.25% each. Just a simple way to adjust a cars overall score based on what a customer(in my opinion) would be looking for when buying a car in that class.

The weighting based on the class of car is also mentioned, in large bright orange text, in the first post, just not exact % like i outlined here.

I dont understand how such a simple statement can lead to something as silly as saying i only use in-game calculations, or dont do any speculation.
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:57 pm

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Sorry, I didn't mean to give you a hard time. I was having an honest difficulty in keeping track of where the conversation was going, and what the point was. We can probably attribute at least half of that to my being sleep deprived :P (Working a disco shift then catching a long distance train before dawn is not my idea of a good night's sleep).

Let's go back to the point before I got confused, in that case:

USDMFTW wrote:Hypercars would be interesting, but they vary so much that a real comparison would be difficult to do without imposing restrictions that limit design choice.


This certainly seems true in the real world, which is why I got wrapped up in the whole tangent about what kind of things about a hypercar simple numbers couldn't express. But probably the more sensible question to ask is, given that even the variability can be broken down reliably, as you say, into values of meaningful attributes, then what kind of design choices would require restriction?
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Post Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:33 pm

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No invite to the disco? Kappa

To be honest, i cant think of anything that would make the comparison "realistic" without limiting design choices, which a hyper car is all about crazy design choices. Maybe a cost restriction(pretty high limit) so people have to make some different design choices other than +15 on every quality slider, and so a car does not have a 500 year engineering/build time.

1 million dollar cost limit comes to mind
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:32 am

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Funnily enough I could at this point also recommend the 'competitiveness' score be a certain minimum, because if the car is simply too expensive and goes too far out of budget, then it's not sellable as a hypercar according to the game.

Though I think that too is a bit limiting. I'm ok with implementing a certain price range plus suggesting points for the car's "rarity" i.e. how small a factory you use to build it. For example if you build tiny, the cost of the car rises significantly but this means higher exclusivity.

p.s. disco shift at the hospital, you don't want none o that. I'm just happy I'm not the A&E doc anymore, so many cars crashing on the highway over public holidays...
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:21 am

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Well, we can make it official.

When the open beta completes, and becomes a stable release, we will be holding a Hypercar challenge.

Restrictions: Subject to change
Model Year 2017
1 Million Dollar Max price

Example Hyper Cars: Ferrari Enzo, Koenigsegg CCGT

Ill be accepting 5 cars total, you can reserve your spot now.
Check main post to check to see how many spots are open.
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:53 am

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To make the challenges a bit more close, why not you give them an example of a hypercar that could enter to the competition? For example: Hennessey Venom GT or Keonigsegg Regera. This would hopefully make them build a car like it and then the cars could compete better. :)
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:20 am

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Speedemon wrote:To make the challenges a bit more close, why not you give them an example of a hypercar that could enter to the competition? For example: Hennessey Venom GT or Keonigsegg Regera. This would hopefully make them build a car like it and then the cars could compete better. :)


Sounds like a good idea, added to the post.
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:07 pm

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I'll sign up for one of those spots!
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:32 pm

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stickmaster62 wrote:I'll sign up for one of those spots!


You have spot 1 reserved!
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:36 pm

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A Hypercar comparison? Haven't seen one of those in yeeeeers.
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:58 pm

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I know how you feel about hypercars, wild German :P but the fact it hasn't been done for a very long time is exactly why I'm pushing for one!

Model year 2017? Completed open beta? Perfect. I'd like to reserve a spot.
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:05 pm

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I'd be more than happy to enter this as the laughing stock of the group.
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:19 pm

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We may end up having a bidding war for entry to this comparison :P

I for one have a number of specific users on my hit list for daring to declare their cars in such superlative terms ;)
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:17 pm

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strop wrote:I know how you feel about hypercars, wild German :P but the fact it hasn't been done for a very long time is exactly why I'm pushing for one!

Model year 2017? Completed open beta? Perfect. I'd like to reserve a spot.



KairaWolf wrote:I'd be more than happy to enter this as the laughing stock of the group.


Spots reserved
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Post Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:27 pm

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I would like to enter into the challenge as well. :)
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