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Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Entries | 10.feb DL ]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:50 am
by BlahLord
Welcome to the 2016 Tuner Challenge, what are these bollocks you might ask?
We're taking small Four to Six cylinder cars and slamming them with giant turbochargers that can lift rocks off the ground as you pass, it's all about squeezing the most power out of a cheap, surprisingly sporty, road car or a budget sports car to get the best track time as possible. In the series of the events we are hosting we will have tight tracks that will require a lot of grip to maneuver around, straight line tracks with some tighter corners that will push the tiny overpowered engine to it's breaking point while testing the limits of the car along with the 1/4, 1/2 and 1 mile races to see who's rice cooker is the best, well, rice cooker.

Rules:
1. Must use one of the showcased cars for your build ( Accepting car submissions, more below )
2. Engine Swaps are not allowed (You can overbore or add more strokes if the engine variant allows +- 3mm)
3. No Ultimate Unleaded fuel
4. No increasing quality of tires ( We're not gonna use $5000 tires on $4000 cars )
5. Minimum safety of 30
6. Minimum reliability of 50
7. Max cost of $11.000
8. Trim/Engine year must be 2015/16
9. Changing anything in Chassis Tab and Body Tab is not allowed!
10. 1 Spoiler (Rear) 1 Lip (Front) allowed
11. Three Entries max per person ( Track/Grip racing, Drag racing, Styling/Tuning )
12. Vanilla Fixtures only!
13. Please submit as ( Model / Trim [Username]) ( Engine / Variant [ Username ]) and specify in the PM as for which category you are going!
14. Must feature working headligths, taillights and handles
15. Suspension parts must not be changed!
16. No variant bodies allowed

User company submissions: (CLOSED)
Got a car you would like to donate for this event? Go right ahead but we have a few rules:
1. Max cost under $8.000 (People need money to rice their cars) (For the year of production, non-markets tab)
2. Max displacement of 3l ( 183Cubic Inches )
3. No more than 6 cylinders allowed
4. HP/KG < 0.25
5. Hard Compound Road, Chunky Offroad tires or Medium Road
6. No Carbon/Fibre glass panels or chassis's
7. No race intakes
8. No race tubular exhausts
9. Safety > 30
10. Reliability > 60
11. Cat. Converters are required
12. No Mods Allowed (Apologies from my part)
13. Any car newer than 1975 accepted, variants for the race are made in 2015/16
14. Loudness < 50
15. No other limited production parts

Car Showroom:
Showroom
Cars.zip
Showroom Cars *Fixed*
(1.67 MiB) Downloaded 243 times




Race and Events


1.) Grip Tracks:

Automation Test Track (10th February)
Albert Park
Brands Hatch Indy
Haruna Downhill
Nurburgring Nordschleife(Green Hell)
Tsukuba Circuit
Conan's AutoX


2.) Drag Races:

1/4 mile time
1 mile time

3.) Styling and tuning competition: Judged on prestige, comfort and judge's taste ( Me )

Note: An user can submit up to 3 cars, 1 for each category. Also one car can be used for more categories (Not recommended)

Scoring:

1) Grip races/Drag:
- 1st = 25 score
- 2nd = 18 score
- 3rd = 15 score
- 4th = 12 score
- 5th = 10 score
- 6th = 8 score
- 7th = 6 score
- 8th = 4 score
- 9th = 2 score
- 10th = 1 score

2) Tuning and styling
1 score per 1 comfort ( 55.33comfort = 55.33 score)
2 score per 1 prestige ( 35.27 prestige = 71.54 score)

Overall eye candy:

- 1st = 25 score
- 2nd = 18 score
- 3rd = 15 score
- 4th = 12 score
- 5th = 10 score
- 6th = 8 score
- 7th = 6 score
- 8th = 4 score
- 9th = 2 score
- 10th = 1 score









Credits:
Huge thank you to Strop for supporting and giving me tips for this event, without him it wouldn't be so thought out
To everyone that submitted the showroom cars and support this event from the day it was made!

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:16 am
by Sillyworld
It seems interesting :D
I have a suggestion (more like an idea) :
Normally, people buy used cars and then rice them. So, I suggest that the showcase cars(?) be from, I don't know, 1995-2000. Then using a simple formula to calculate the used car value, and that is subtracted from the budget. Example: this car new in 1997 cost 12,500 (markets tab), and used in 2016 costs 4,000, so using this car the total cost (budget) should be 9,000.

And obviously, the riced trim/variant should be 2016.

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:23 am
by strop
This is the kind of challenge I've wanted to host for a long time, but never found the right angle or quite the right time to. I'm very happy that you're going to give it a good go!

One of the main challenges I had was how on earth is one to keep the balance of engines reasonable? I suspect that setting hard displacement and cylinder limitations will be tricky, after all, there aren't many real life cars that use <2L 6cyl. For example, this would exclude such gems as the RB26DETT and I don't know if I could live with that :P

I think one way past this is to have scoring criteria either separate the cars out by class or score them by performance delta, in which the riced version is compared to the original. That's where it got tricky for me, and why I never started the challenge. But that's my thought for you.

Also, this:

12. No mods allowed

Is going to cause quite a bit of hair pulling. Are you a standalone user who doesn't have any mods? Unfortunately, 90% of the users here are Steam users who, at the very least, have installed the High Quality Essentials via the Workshop (and most of them, like me, have installed all of the working mods). Most of us don't even remember what is a mod and what isn't.

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:31 am
by BlahLord
Sillyworld wrote:It seems interesting :D
I have a suggestion (more like an idea) :
Normally, people buy used cars and then rice them. So, I suggest that the showcase cars(?) be from, I don't know, 1995-2000. Then using a simple formula to calculate the used car value, and that is subtracted from the budget. Example: this car new in 1997 cost 12,500 (markets tab), and used in 2016 costs 4,000, so using this car the total cost (budget) should be 9,000.

And obviously, the riced trim/variant should be 2016.


This is a nice idea but I have no idea how I'm going to put that togeather, I'll update it as I go

strop wrote:This is the kind of challenge I've wanted to host for a long time, but never found the right angle or quite the right time to. I'm very happy that you're going to give it a good go!

One of the main challenges I had was how on earth is one to keep the balance of engines reasonable? I suspect that setting hard displacement and cylinder limitations will be tricky, after all, there aren't many real life cars that use <2L 6cyl. For example, this would exclude such gems as the RB26DETT and I don't know if I could live with that :P

I think one way past this is to have scoring criteria either separate the cars out by class or score them by performance delta, in which the riced version is compared to the original. That's where it got tricky for me, and why I never started the challenge. But that's my thought for you.

Also, this:

12. No mods allowed

Is going to cause quite a bit of hair pulling. Are you a standalone user who doesn't have any mods? Unfortunately, 90% of the users here are Steam users who, at the very least, have installed the High Quality Essentials via the Workshop (and most of them, like me, have installed all of the working mods). Most of us don't even remember what is a mod and what isn't.


I'd love to see replicas of RB26, 1JZ/2JZ and some BMW engines, so I might up the limit to three liters, but I don't know how that's going to affect little honda V-TEC's that had 1.6l or such, I was thinking about placing all the cars into a single category but I might split them into two (Divided by Horsepower mark).

As for the mod, I do use the High-Quality essentials but I like to keep as far away from mods as possible. Main reason being the car having a mod I don't have or just general uncompability, I'll give it a little thinking and maybe add High-Quality essentials as a possible allowed modpack

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:39 am
by BlahLord
I could really use some help about switching the production year of the car (eg. 1994) to a 2016 variant of that car, the price rises and I don't know how to fit it in the budget.

P.S: I just transfered my car's trim from BRC from 1966 to 2016 and it's $2.000 cheaper so this might work

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:51 am
by koolkei
this is quite interesting... although why the 0.25 hp/kg limit? this is kinda un-neccesary. especially if it's track time related.

also, what's the scoring criteria? or is this just a ricer car race?

i have the perfect car for this.... except for the no mods rule

@strop although there arent many. the BMW M50 series. it's an inline 6 with it's lowest variant being a 2liter, i think that's in the 'relatively popular' category doesn't it? it was the engine that powered the BMW 320i E36

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:01 am
by Slax
How about old bodies and engines (1984-2001) with modern (2015/16+?) trim/tuning?

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:03 am
by theh4x0r1337
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small cheap.
1.6 liter, with turbo
awd system, for wannabe rally drivers
90s body
with a good reliability

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Need Help/Feedback]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:52 am
by BlahLord
High-Quality Essentials mods allowed for showcased cars, disp. limit is now three liters!

Now taking your slow-ass, cheapskate cars for the event.

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:11 am
by CadillacDave
So is the $11,000 limit for the cars build date cost or it's cost in 2016?

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:28 am
by BlahLord
CadillacDave wrote:So is the $11,000 limit for the cars build date cost or it's cost in 2016?

Build the trim/engine variant(You are sending the original trim to me) in 2016 and make sure it doesn't pass the cost limit.
-Should be produciton year, the total cost should not surpass $8.000

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:43 am
by CadillacDave
BlahLord wrote:
CadillacDave wrote:So is the $11,000 limit for the cars build date cost or it's cost in 2016?

Build another trim/engine variant(You are sending the original trim to me) in 2016 and make sure it doesn't pass the cost limit.


Ah right that makes sense, thank you

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:46 pm
by Madrias
Is the $11,000 the Total Cost or the cost in the Market tab?

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:23 am
by BlahLord
Madrias wrote:Is the $11,000 the Total Cost or the cost in the Market tab?

It's for "Total Costs" on the first overview tab, not the markets tab

Re: Got Rice? Tuners challenge [Accepting Cars (Read more)]

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:30 am
by Madrias
Good news, then! So, if I've got a car from 1995, do I set the year forward to 2016 now and send you that car, or just send you the 1995 car?