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Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:18 am
by Camjkerman
Welcome to The Hot Eco Hatch Challenge. Your challenge is to build a hot hatch in the year 1982 that will totally redefine the entire class while still being reasonably economical, here are the rules;
1. Must be in 1982
2. Must have 3 doors
3. Must not have any more than 4 cylinders
4. Must achieve more than 12.5 mpg (UK)
5. Must have less than 200 emissions
6. Must have more than 140 bhp
7. Must be FWD
8. Must have a 5-Speed Manual Transmission
9. Must cost less than $30,000 total
10. Max capacity: 2500cc
11. No turbos
12. Be as creative with fixtures and body deformations as you can it needs to be eye catching.
Let the challenge BEGIN!
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:23 am
by Camjkerman
The deadline is 1st January 2016 at 8:30 AM GMT.
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:35 am
by BlastersPewPew
How are things going to be scored? Are we racing? 30K is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too much for a hatchback in 1982, 6-10K is much better IMO. Production unit cap? Service costs? We need to know all these details. Also, at least in my opinion, is is nice when the hosts post multiple measurements for stats, ie your 12.5mpg (UK) should also have the US and L/100 equivalent posted, makes it easier for everyone so they dont need to constantly change their options around.
Also, you are going to REALLY struggle to get under the 200 emissions limit in 1982 with carbs and the two way catalyst IF it is even possible. And why are you letting it run till next year? That is very stupid, 2-3 weeks at MOST otherwise you might get caught in an update or people just loose interest.
EDIT: more info here
http://automationgame.com/phpBB3/viewto ... =39&t=5782 http://automationgame.com/phpBB3/viewto ... =39&t=8131Read these

Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:44 am
by Microwave
Another hot hatch challenge... hmm..
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:13 am
by asdren
Over two month deadline? Way too long IMO
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:52 am
by Camjkerman
Deadline changed to November 27th at 4:00 pm GMT
Emissions limit is 300 (easily reachable if injection and three way cat is used)
12.5 mpg uk-10.4 mpg US-22.6 l/100km
price limit total is now $20k
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:40 am
by Leonardo9613
How will the cars be judged? Considering the awful fuel economy these will be racing cars, right? Also 20k is the total cost or the price indicated on the market screen?
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

Posted:
Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:54 pm
by koolkei
i think before taking submission..... maybe you'll be better off discussing the rules first??
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:05 pm
by Camjkerman
Leonardo, these cars will be judged on the mean average of all the numbers achieved except engine capacity, so the calculation will look like this: economy+ emissions+ power+ price= initial score then divide by 4 to get the final score and whoever gets the highest final score wins so you must send a screenshot at the end of the trim section and the market screen of your entry to me via this forum for it to be counted. The price will be the one on the market screen for Archana. Entries will start to be accepted from today until 1 hour before the deadline.
Kind Regards
Camjkerman
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:19 am
by Leonardo9613
So higher price is better? Are you sure it wouldn't be a better idea to include a few other variables to the calculation, like the drivability, sportiness, comfort, prestige and safety scores?
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:33 am
by Camjkerman
Leonardo, yes it is until the price limit as a hot hatch is a really expensive vehicle (so that 'irresponsible' new drivers will not buy them) e.g. the new Honda Civic Type R costs from around £30,000 in the UK, that's why the original price limit was $30,000 and I will reconsider the calculation so that there will be 2 different calculations: one that should have lower numbers and one that should have higher numbers so it would look like this;
1- Economy+ Price+ Power+ Drivability+ Sportiness+ Prestige+ Safety then divide by 6= initial score
2- Emissions+ Comfort then divide by 2= Final Score and overall judgement of the vehicle
comfort is in the lower numbers category because hot hatches are supposed to have hard sporty suspension and therefore comfort is not a huge deal to the manufacturers.
I can't wait to see your entries and I wish you all the best in making them.
Kind Regards
Camjkerman
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

Posted:
Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:06 am
by MadamVastra
Mistral - The new low-emission, high performance hatchback for 1982

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Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:37 am
by xABSOLUTIONx
FWD only, no turbos, no Vs.. meh

Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:14 am
by vmo
Please, all new changes, write into the original message (the first message) editing them.
Re: Hot Hatch Eco Challenge 1!

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Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:00 am
by vmo
The total cost in the market section or in the stats?