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Post Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:06 pm

1993 DTM [SUBMISSIONS CLOSED. Revising entries]

Hi guys.

Today, I had the pleasure to make a new challenge: the 1993 DTM.

The rules for the cars are the Class 1 Touring Cars, and are this (only the suspension, body, and engine are for both race car and street car):


Production car rules:

    -Trim year: 1993.

    -Engine year: any year up to 1993.

    -Tailights, headlights, handles, blinkers at the sides.

    -Max. exhaust loudness: 50.

    -Catalytic converter required.

    -Race tubular exhaust headers and race intakes FORBIDDEN.

    -Only 95 RON or 98 RON Unleaded fuel.

    -Minimum reliability (this value is from avg. reliability tab, in the trim overview): 60.

    -Minimum safety: 30.

    -Maximum cost at Gasmea (1993, +5% benefit): $32.000.

    -Max. Wheelbase: between 2500mm and 2800mm.

    -Only Front engined cars.

    -Only sedans or coupes.

    -Maximum cylinders: 6.

    -Maximum engine capacity: 2.5L N/A.

    -Maximum 4 valve per cylinder.
Race car:
-The engine must be the same from the production car. This would say that you can't change the bore or stroke, head and valves system, and the block and head materials.

-Naturally aspirated engines only.

-The aero pieces were free below the wheel centreline (this will say that you can only fit a wing or a lip forward the center of the front wheel or rear the center of rear wheel).

-AWD (not 4x4), traction control, power steering and ABS is allowed.

-The suspension struts MUST BE the same from the production car, but you can change the shocks.

-The body, frame, panels and add-ons (headlighs, wings, air vents...) quality slider MUST BE set to 0. The rest of trim sliders are free to use.

-Max exhaust dB: 100.

-Catalytic converter 3-way high flow REQUIRED.

-The aero elements (except rear wing) MUST BE under the wheel axis line: only a rear wing, and 2 lips: one in the front and one in the rear.

-Race Intake only.

-Race exhausts only.

-Minimum reliability: 30.

-Minimum safety: 30.

-Interior trim: the minimum number of seats available in the car body. Basic interior trim.

-Min. weight: 980kg.

-Max. Quality sliders: ANY restriction, except for the fixture and chassis tab (first tab in the car designer).

-The car aero tray must be set to fully clad, and the active aero and cooling IS FORBIDDEN.

-The only mods allowed are the mods that you can find in the Workshop.

-Car tech year: 1993.

-Max. 300 Tyre Width, 18" rim diameter and 660mm wheel, Slick compound and set the quality slider to +10.


To change the material:
    1. Make your street car, with engine, put the rules name format, save, and export them.

    2. Go to documents/my games/automation/export (Steam version), or documents/automation/export, and rename the zip, putting this in the final: for example, if the exported folder is called Montes_T30, add in the final the trim name: in this case, Montes_T30-Road (put the -Road suffix). This step is very important to make well the next steps.

    3. Modify the saved (NOT EXPORTED) car and engine in the game. Select a new chassis and frame material..., setup all that you think that is convenient, but accomplishing with the rules, rename according with the rules file format, save and export.

    4. Change the zip name like as the step 2, but with the suffix -Race instead -Road.

    Sent me both files via PM, in a single message attaching the two in a single *.Zip file, or each trim for message.


Setups for each race:
    -Before any race, you can sent me via PM the aero values and gear ratio values.


YOU MUST SEND VIA PM the exported race car with engine, and the production car with engine with this name rules:


Road car:
CAR: DTM93-<Username>

TRIM: Road<Company><Model designation>

ENGINE: DTM93-<Username>

Variant: Road-<engine Code>


Race car:

Car TRIM: Race-<Company><Model designation>

Engine Variant: Race-<engine Code>


Race tracks:

Entries.
    -Montes T30 Coupe MRP (vmo).
    -Erin Berlose (DeusExMackia).
    -SX-1 (lordvader1).
    -Bogliq bastion (HighOctaneLove). Pink bug in the non-GTA SA Sultan
    -Matoyama Motors YR-4R Stream (marcus817).
    -DMW Transeuropa (Burningbridges).
    -Smooth Veex (AirJordan).

The submissions are now opened until the 28th February 2016 23:55 hrs.
Last edited by vmo on Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:12 am, edited 36 times in total.
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Post Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:55 pm

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

May want to state if this is for pre-patch or post-patch cars only, some of us will run the beta as soon as it is out and might muck with your results.
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Post Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:03 pm

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

BlastersPewPew wrote:May want to state if this is for pre-patch or post-patch cars only, some of us will run the beta as soon as it is out and might muck with your results.


True.

This is for the current version of Automation.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:39 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

vmo wrote:(only the suspension, body, and engine are for both race car and street car):
-The car and engine MUST BE derived from a production car. This would be that the race car and engine must be the modified production engine and car. Other engine isn't allowed.

Ok, don't mean to sound rude but your English isn't the best and I'm having a hard time understanding this part.
What you're saying is, the car must be a race version of a production car, and you can only tune the engine (not make a new one) and edit the body?
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:49 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

Yes. But you can change the body and frame material.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:37 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

For gods sake, another challenge where you limit interior and entertainment options and then puts a minimum weight. Haven't you heard from last time? This way we simply can't add ballast. Also, the new version is coming this week, you should at least wait for that, as it fixes the annoying saving bugs and has several other improvements, like V6 turbos and proper 4x4, in addition to AWD (concepts which you mixed up on the rules)

Besides, you said hat he materials can be changed between versions, well, sadly the game doesn't allow that, nor changing the overall body shape, only different body styles within a same model.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:27 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

I will change the date until the release of new update.

To change the body material, you need to make first the road car, save it, copy the trim and change the name.

Now, export this car, go to the export folder, and extract into a desktop folder, and change the model name.

Do not put in this moment the files.

Open Automation, open the original car, and rename the street version name and save it. Delete the other trim.

In this step, put the desktop car files, and put in the Automation save folder.

Open the game, and change the frame and panel material to carbon.

Profit.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:49 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

Very simple, heh, just like your rules.

No comments on the minimum weight? And why the completely arbitrary quality slider limits? No maximum costs? No naming convention?
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:06 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

Leonardo9613 wrote:Very simple, heh, just like your rules.

No comments on the minimum weight? And why the completely arbitrary quality slider limits? No maximum costs? No naming convention?

This is a non-Max (Hitler) Mosley challenge.

And the weight, minimum 990kg, and the sliders are explained.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:31 am

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

Bueno, claro que no parece entender la ironía.
Lo que he tratado de decir es que su reto no tiene sentido y tiene reglas bastante estúpidas, la mayoría de los cuales no tienen sentido. El peso mínimo, por ejemplo, va a ser muy difícil de conseguir ya que no podemos jugar con los ajustes interiores, que por lo general utilizamos como lastre. Los deslizadores de calidad se ha explicado, sí, pero no tienen razón de ser los números aleatorios que ellos eligieron ser. Tener costos máximos sería mucho mejor. También, compararme con Mosley y Hitler? ¿Es usted un idiota completo o qué?

Y si mi español es malo, lo siento, acabo de utilizar la misma herramienta que usted lo hace. Y sí, el Inglés se encuentra con este mal.
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:35 pm

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

eazy! eazy!

that's a very interesting concept! very much in deed!
but it will do with some refinement in the rules...
i think the restrains should be on:

-tire size and quality - same tires for everybody, "Max. 300 Tyre Width, 17" rim diameter and 660mm wheel", but we can add 10 quality and 255 for front wheel, maybe we can search the exact size they used? BRC restrains the quality and width (also hp/kg )and we see very close races, if we have the very same rubber, i think it will be very nice, and BRC rules makes me think about the next restrain I propose

-hp/weight ratio - how about 0,5hp/kg????

-engine displacement - 2,5L, 6 cylinder max is ok!

-"The suspension needs to be the same from the production car, but you can change the quality sliders up to max of 5 and a minimum of 0." nice, but maybe we can set the sliders free here!

-"The body, frame, panels and add-ons (headlighs, wings, air vents...) quality slider MUST BE set to 0." perfect!, but must be the same material as the production car!

-reliability, security and noise constraints, perfect!

-the interior will be striped out if we want or not, so no constraints here

-year, of course

-front engine and wheelbase, ok!

-and last constrain should be the cost, i think about $50k

what do you think??
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Post Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:20 pm

Re: 1993 DTM [ONLY Steam version]

Thanks for your improvements!

I will change the wheels, suspension and production car cost rules.
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Yix Auto is entering DTM'93 with it's upgraded Stormwave.
Company's testing track has seen as much as four chassis prototypes and seven different engine models before final version was accepted.
Now it is facing VMO car federation homologation... :lol:
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Post Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:19 am

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It looks well.
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K'works DTM Concept (Temporarily name) work in progress
Est price 165000$
with 93.8 score and 88 affordability in Fun P category
and 93.1 score and 80 affordability in L sport category
This car should sale like a cup cake
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