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Post Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:24 am

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) MEDIAN STATS RELEAS

i read now about lots of fancy stuff like multilinksuspension and stuff. I vent with more common Stuff and give some quality, hands my reliability but its not that driveable. And i got no AWD, too heavy/expensive, RWD rulez. I wonder that there isn't an economic-malus for AWD or tirewidth. 225 should be enough for a 1.6 ton car.
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Post Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:09 pm

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) MEDIAN STATS RELEAS

My beef, though it's a very minor one, is that there's no penalty for using rare tyre configurations. Service costs for tyres are based mainly on material and surface area, and the reality is that if the tyre isn't found at certain dealers it becomes a right pain in the ass to source! (This being the subject of a lengthy Jezza rant even a couple of years ago.)

However there's a much larger problem with using a tyre catalogue in-game, and that is of course that it'd be horrendously clunky. The sandbox mode after all aims to simulate the cars, not the market.

Really given the weightings of this challenge, in retrospect I should have used 265s all around, but instead I thought about real world conditions and concluded that 235s were already more than enough (and also the most common width for this kind of car).
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Post Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:53 pm

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) MEDIAN STATS RELEAS

My car isn't that drivable haha and in all honesty cars of this class have quite wide tyres nowadays. 265's or even 275's in some cases on 18, 19 or 20 inch wheels. It's getting absurd but it is what it is.

I am going to release the car in 15th place later on today so stay tuned.
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Post Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:40 am

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I hope you do more than one per day!! 15 days is a LONG time to wait for the finish, 3-5 per day would be better if you decide to space out the reveals. Dont take this as negative criticism though, it is just my .02.
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Post Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:37 am

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(A 2 cents that I would wholeheartedly second, and imagine quite a few people would do the same. Particularly if you are only revealing stats of the cars not reviewed!)
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Post Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:46 am

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) MEDIAN STATS RELEAS

I ran into a problem with my perfectionism. I wanted to include the non-weighted stats but then I thought that I should order these too so now I am putting them into a spreadsheet as well but I should be done soon enough and I will update the mean and median stats too with this information and then I will release the 15th maybe in the evening and will do more than one a day starting from tomorrow.

*edit* It may actually be delayed until tomorrow. Something came up and so I'll do what I can but it will be either tonight or tomorrow.
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:17 am

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Argh damnit! I can't bare this tension. I need to know if I'm last or not!
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Post Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:36 pm

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First off, let me apologise for the delay in the presentations of the cars. Some things came up and I didn't have enough time to sort this out. But finally I am ready to start revealing the cars.

15th Place (122 Points) - RoyalStig - Griffin Teulu LXR

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WEIGHTED STATS
DRIVABILITY - 61.0 - 18 Points (10th Place)
SPORTINESS - 39.1 - 21 Points (9th Place)
COMFORT - 44.1 - 9 Points (13th Place)
FUEL ECONOMY - 24.8mpg (20.7 US-mpg, 11.39 lt/100km) - 3 Points (15th Place)
PRESTIGE - 27.4 - 4 Points (14th Place)
RELIABILITY - 64.3 - 2 Points (15th Place)
50-75 - 3.2s - 16 Points (8th Place)
PRACTICALITY - 62.36 - 20 Points (6th Place)
SAFETY - 51.4 - 4 Points (12th Place)
BRAKING - 35.6m (116.8ft) - 7 Points (9th Place)
SERVICE COSTS - $2547.96 - 3 Points (13th Place)
0-62 - 5.6s - 4 Points (8th Place)
TOP SPEED - 157mph (252.7kph) - 3.5 Points (9th Place)
QUARTER MILE - 13.86s - 4 Points (8th Place)
EMISSIONS - 81 - 3.5 Points (9th Place)

OTHER STATS
POWER - 348hp (260KW) @6900rpm - Joint 7th Place
TORQUE - 270lb-ft (366Nm) @5200rpm - 4th Place
ENGINE PERFORMANCE INDEX - 224.8 - 9th Place
ENGINE LOUDNESS - 45.5 - 15th Place
ENGINE RESPONSIVENESS - 51.9 - 6th Place
ENGINE SMOOTHNESS - 54.6 - 15th Place
ENGINE EFFICIENCY - 23.64% - 14th Place
WEIGHT - 1548.1kg (3413lb) - 7th Place
AIRFIELD TIME - 1:30.41 - 9th Place
GREEN HELL TIME - 8:58.29 - 9th Place
WHEEL SPIN - 14.2% - 7th Place
BRAKE FADE - 0.0% - Joint 1st Place
ROLL ANGLE - 3.01 - 7th Place
TOTAL COST - $16864.36 - 3rd Place

CHASSIS INFORMATION
Glued Aluminium Monocoque
Polymer body panels
Longitudinal engine placement
Double Wishbone Front Suspension
Semi-Trailing Arm Rear Suspension.
0 quality

ENGINE BLOCK & HEAD
V6
Aluminium Block
Aluminium Head
Dual Overhead Cam (4 valves per cylinder)
VVL

SIZE
3516cc (215 cubic inch)
90.7mm bore (3.57 inch)
90.7mm stroke (3.57 inch)

BOTTOM END
Billet Steel Crank
I Beam Steel Conrods
Hypereutectic Cast Pistons
0 Quality

TOP END
12.3:1 Compression Ratio
VVT on All Cams
0 Quality

ASPIRATION
Naturally Aspirated

FUEL SYSTEM
Direct Injection
Single Throttle Body
Perfomance Intake
Premium Unleaded Fuel 95RON
13.6:1 Fuel Mixture
6900 RPM Limit
0 Quality

EXHAUST SYSTEM
Long Tubular Headers
Dual 2.25 Inch Pipe
High Flow Three Way Catalytic Converter
2 Straight Through Mufflers
Bypass Valves
0 Quality

DRIVETRAIN
AWD
7 Speed Dual Clutch Sequential Gearbox
Geared LSD
0 Quality

WHEELS AND TYRES
205/55R17 Sports Compound Road Tyres Front Tyres
225/50R17 Sports Compound Road Tyres Rear Tyres
Alloy Wheels
0 Quality

BRAKES
350mm (13.8 inch) 6 Piston Front Vented Disc Brakes
325mm (12.8 inch) 4 Piston Rear Vented Disc Brakes
0 Quality

AERO
No Undertray
+4 Quality

INTERIOR AND SAFETY
0 Quality Premium Interior
0 Quality Premium Infotainment
0 Quality Standard 10's Safety

SUSPENSION
Active Sport Springs
Adaptive Dampers
Passive Swaybars
+1 Quality


HOW TO IMPROVE THE CAR
Use better pistons (more reliability)
Use a less aggressive cam (more efficiency)
Reduce the fuel mixture (more efficiency)
Use a different muffler setup (more comfort)
Use less exhaust pipe (more efficiency)
Use a less rearward biased power distribution (more drivability and prestige and less wheelspin)
Shorten the final drive (better acceleration)
Use wider tyres (tames the oversteer and increases sportiness and drivability)
Optimise your brakes more (less weight and cost for other things)
Raise the ride height (more drivability and comfort)
Utilise your budget with quality sliders
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:57 am

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Did you use the RPM limiter to limit the car to under 350 hp RoyalStig? If that was the case I think I would have also lowered the cam profile to bring down your peak HP while increasing fuel economy.

EDIT: I do NOT foresee my car doing good here, if Royal was in 15th then by looking at my stats I am going to be following very close to him.
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:38 am

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) 15th PLACE RELEASED

I cannot have done much better than @RoyalStig or you @BlastersPewPew either by the sounds of it. Let's see who's least worse! :lol:
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:03 am

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14th Place (170.5 Points) - DeusExMackia - Erin Tauga Vox

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WEIGHTED STATS
DRIVABILITY - 53.0 - 6 Points (14th Place)
SPORTINESS - 31.6 - 21 Points (9th Place)
COMFORT - 48.3 - 21 Points (9th Place)
FUEL ECONOMY - 32.2mpg (26.8 US-mpg, 8.77 lt/100km) - 21 Points (9th Place)
PRESTIGE - 28.2 - 8 Points (12th Place)
RELIABILITY - 72.7 - 32 Points (Joint 3rd Place)
50-75 - 4.3s - 8 Points (12th Place)
PRACTICALITY - 61.84 - 16 Points (8th Place)
SAFETY - 70.3 - 20 Points (2nd Place)
BRAKING - 38.7m (127ft) - 2 Points (14th Place)
SERVICE COSTS - $2073.94 - 13 Points (4th Place)
0-62 - 7.4s - 2 Points (12th Place)
TOP SPEED - 152.1mph (244.8kph) - 2.5 Points (11th Place)
QUARTER MILE - 15.42s - 2 Points (12th Place)
EMISSIONS - 64 - 8 Points (3rd Place)

OTHER STATS
POWER - 217hp (162KW) @6300rpm - 12th Place
TORQUE - 222lb-ft (301Nm) @2600rpm - 10th Place
ENGINE PERFORMANCE INDEX - 154.5 - 12th Place
ENGINE LOUDNESS - 30 - 7th Place
ENGINE RESPONSIVENESS - 52.3 - 5th Place
ENGINE SMOOTHNESS - 78.6 - Joint 5th Place
ENGINE EFFICIENCY - 28.71% - 7th Place
WEIGHT - 1616.9kg (3564.7lb) - 10th Place
AIRFIELD TIME - 1:37.25 - Joint 12th Place
GREEN HELL TIME - 9:37.08 - 13th Place
WHEEL SPIN - 37% - 14th Place
BRAKE FADE - 7.8% - 15th Place
ROLL ANGLE - 4.15 - 14th Place
TOTAL COST - $15604.54 - 1st Place

CHASSIS INFORMATION
AHS Steel Monocoque
Aluminium body panels
Longitudinal engine placement
Double Wishbone Front Suspension
Double Wishbone Rear Suspension.
+2 quality

ENGINE BLOCK & HEAD
Inline 6
Aluminium Block
Aluminium Head
Dual Overhead Cam (4 valves per cylinder)


SIZE
3119cc (190 cubic inch)
94.9mm bore (3.74 inch)
73.5mm stroke (2.89 inch)

BOTTOM END
Forged Steel Crank
Forged H Beam Conrods
Hypereutectic Cast Pistons
+1 Quality

TOP END
11.8:1 Compression Ratio
VVT on All Cams
0 Quality

ASPIRATION
Naturally Aspirated

FUEL SYSTEM
Direct Injection
Single Throttle Body
Perfomance Intake
Premium Unleaded Fuel 95RON
13.8:1 Fuel Mixture
6400 RPM Limit
+4 Quality

EXHAUST SYSTEM
Short Cast Headers
Single 2.25 Inch Pipe
High Flow Three Way Catalytic Converter
2 Reverse Flow Mufflers
0 Quality

DRIVETRAIN
RWD
6 Speed Manual Gearbox
Open Diff
+2 Quality

WHEELS AND TYRES
175/45R17 Medium Compound Road Tyres Tyres
Alloy Wheels
+1 Quality

BRAKES
310mm (12.2inch) 2 Piston Front Solid Disc Brakes
315mm (12.4 inch) 2 Piston Rear Solid Disc Brakes
+3 Quality

AERO
No Undertray
Cooling Flaps
+3 Quality

INTERIOR AND SAFETY
0 Quality Premium Interior
-3 Quality Premium Infotainment
+1 Quality Advanced 10's Safety

SUSPENSION
Active Sport Springs
Semi Active Dampers
Passive Swaybars
+3 Quality


HOW TO IMPROVE THE CAR
Rev the engine out more (more usable power band)
Up the cam profile (more power)
Use a bigger exhaust (more power)
Use a diff (less wheel spin)
Use wider and sticker tyres (more grip)
Use vented discs (less brake fade)
Utilise the budget
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:19 am

Re: J.E.C.B (Junior Executive Car Brawl) 14th PLACE RELEASED

Welp, I'm glad I did well in cost, reliability and safety :lol:
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:33 am

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Cost wasn't a weighted stat so it had no bearing in your score.
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:25 am

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I *might* have looked over that while I was designing the car. But hey, this is the first competition I've completed :)
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Post Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:37 am

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both last places would be much more well scored if stile was weighted, very handsome cars!!
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