Automation Hall Of Records

[CheftonUTD]

Looking at doing a "production car" type class today since there is a lot of interest in having more rules.

Should the following be banned from use in the production car class:
Front lips (safety issue in many countries)
Race intakes (not any real protection for the engine)
Race-tube headers (no mass production)
Bypass valves (?)
Semi-slicks

Any thoughts on emission limits, economy, or max costs?

[strop]

The current accepted limitations for the hot lap leaderboards are: no race tubular exhaust, no semi-slicks, no 100RON fuel, which is what you generally have already. I don't know if you want a minimum reliability or how much of this can be left to the discretion of 'well this car is technically a production car but it was so unreliable/uneconomical/unrealistically priced sales suffered terribly and it made the company go bankrupt'. I just don't know man.

Bypass valves aren't a problem, I don't think. Front lips.......... that's tough given the way fixtures are calculated here. If you cancel that then exactly where *can* we put the fixtures? Also considering that Automation's way of calculating downforce is comparatively crude, so those fixtures I consider more symbolic than anything else, given that with some technical whizzbangery, for example, the Infiniti models have this 'no lift' system and they're completely road legal... can't do that easily with just downforce undertray!

[Leonardo9613]

I think that front lips should be allowed, sporty versions of modern cars have them and they are road legal.
It really isn't a big deal at all. However, front wings shouldn't be allowed, those are just too ridiculous.

I think an emission limit would have some value, but it would be hard to determin the limit itself, where to put the mark in the sand.
I would make a separate thread all together for the production category, because this current layout already isn't very clear, if another class were to be added, things would get very disorganised. This one should remain a tribute to the limits of the game, an unhinged exhibition of you much one can do with the things we have right now.

[Cheeseman]

As you may already know, the front lip rule applies to the car reviewing thing, simply because none of them are safe. They all protrude massively for the body. Once there are lips that can hide in safer places, like in grilles so that they don't stick out (which is where they end up nowadays) I will allow them for the reviewing.

Whether you decide to not allow front lips is up to you though. I'm easy either way.

[FoX213]

If i want the "Highest Powered i6:" Record do i have to post a whole car or is the Engine enough?

[Jakgoe]

Both of these cars have outrageous, but legal, front splitters. I see no reason to exclude them from anything, records or comparisons.

[Leonardo9613]

Thanks, Jack.

I was going to post exactly these examples. The Z06 in particular, has that front lip design especially to be able to pass European pedestrian safety legislation. Which meant they had to make it even more aggressive.

[Cheeseman]

Hmmm... maybe for the next one then

I must admit though, the front lips on these are so low that they probably couldn't do much damage anyway.

[Jakgoe]

Hmmm... maybe for the next one then

I must admit though, the front lips on these are so low that they probably couldn't do much damage anyway.

Honestly though, I'd be more concerned by the 4000lb car behind the lip...

[Luilakkie]

Most power per liter entry:
358.1 kW/Litre

[oldgreg]

Slowest 0-100 time: 119.4 seconds.

[FoX213]

Highest Powered i6 entry:

[TrackpadUser]

Decided to add a bunch of values to the table



So, in short:

Comfort: 112.6
Prestige: 140.4
Safety: 125.5
Sportiness: 121.0
Tameness: 114.6
Avg. Reliability: 138.6

And a suggestion to add, engine reliability:
99.8

Also, forgot to highlight it, but the car I used for the safety record has 108.3 utility.

[Luilakkie]

I raise the new slowest 0-100 time: 119.9 seconds.
I think top speed in automation is the speed the car reaches in 2 minutes, so i think this time can't really be improved. im not 100% sure though

[strop]

Just a quick reminder that the fastest km should still be mine I updated with a sub 13s time on page 2.