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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:33 am

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Mine used an oversquare I6 engine engineered to be nice and smooth. cant remember the size or the power, but that really wasnt the point of the car.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:01 pm

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07CobaltGirl wrote:I think I would have to agree. One car is more than enough for most of us to deal with.

On a side note, I'm curious what % of the cars used DOHC/OHC/OHV, Carbs vs EFI, V8 vs I4/I6, etc. ;)
Mine was as close to an LS3 as I could get in 1988, a carburated OHV V8, like any responsible American would produce. Of course, the engine cost $27xx.xx to produce 400+ hp because of the date. It was under 100 hours though!


I used a 10L V8 for MAXIMUM Prestige. With focus on a linear curve for MAXIMUM Comfort.

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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:03 pm

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I'm happy to make a profit. Even if I made the smallest profit. Seems I could have doubled the price of my car.

This was awesome. Thanks Der Bayer
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:33 pm

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curses!!

oh well.. it was fun anyway.. and while I did loose a bit of money, I like to think that I held back a few models in a bunker and I'll start selling them to collectors in 50 years.

great challenge!
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:38 pm

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Some interesting results. Thanks for hosting the competition Beyer.

It looks like my car was a little bit cheap but my factory was much too small. Overall I fell pretty good about a third place finish in the Track Day segment (albeit by the narrowest of margins).

.lua file is attached for anyone that's interested.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:04 pm

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So what is subtracted from revenues on the finance sheet? Is it the manufacture cost of any unsold cars? I'm just curious.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:44 pm

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Janekk wrote:BTW do you have any specific year in mind for next competition? Wouldn't hurt to experiment a bit ;) .

I'm don't know myself yet. :)

07CobaltGirl wrote:So what is subtracted from revenues on the finance sheet? Is it the manufacture cost of any unsold cars? I'm just curious.

"Unsold" cars are not even produced in this challenge. Expenses are all the things covered in the break even calculations: Distribution cost, engineering and tooling, R&D cost (based on revenues) and cost pf production of sold vehicles.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:19 pm

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Ohh man. I should have coughed up for a bigger factory!
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:42 pm

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Yeah, doubled the number of sales for break even and a return of sales of 35 %. sadly no trophy at all, but 17th rank in market share with faboulus 2,27 % market share :mrgreen: I liked this challenge, thanks to Der_Bayer and all people involved!
If there will be an CTC #2 it would be nice if the target goups have some 'must have' criterias like semi-slicks for track day or AWD for offroad etc.

p.s. here's my contender.
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Only thing I found to be a bit stupid, is that apparently our 1988 hatchback should have costed like $32500 per car, which is ridiculous. Thats one of the reasons we kept our price too low, which costed us a lot of sales and thus profit. Definetly should be restricted/recalculated in my opinion.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:04 pm

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Yup, I think some ball park estimate of game prices for the various target groups would have been useful.
I was thinking about 1988 real world uk prices.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:52 pm

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WizzyThaMan wrote:Only thing I found to be a bit stupid, is that apparently our 1988 hatchback should have costed like $32500 per car, which is ridiculous. Thats one of the reasons we kept our price too low, which costed us a lot of sales and thus profit. Definetly should be restricted/recalculated in my opinion.


That was the suggested price if you aim to the maximum profit. The chart was suggesting me to price the car 29.500$ but with that price I could only sell 110k-ish units. Huge profit, but not my goal. I was aiming for the biggest marketshare.
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:09 pm

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WizzyThaMan wrote:Only thing I found to be a bit stupid, is that apparently our 1988 hatchback should have costed like $32500 per car, which is ridiculous. Thats one of the reasons we kept our price too low, which costed us a lot of sales and thus profit. Definetly should be restricted/recalculated in my opinion.

I disagree: the game's pricing is roughly equal to 2012 dollars. Since 1988 the dollar has devalued a lot, $100 then would buy the same stuff as $200 today (recalculated official numbers) and $800 when using the official way CPI was calculated in the 80s. Your $32500 suggested price tag would be $15850 (official numbers) or $4060 (unrevised calculation). Sounds better? My conclusion: Yes, it is ridiculous that governments devalue currency that much, but that definitely doesn't extend to the CTC. ;)
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:38 pm

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But it doesnt make sense. How would you justify a hatchback in 1988 costing 32500? no one would buy it, thus how can it be your max. profit value?
In comparison, take a Honda Civic. Im 100% sure that wasnt close to 32500 dollars in 1988 being sold. Not even with all top line accessories added to it.
And lets say your official number 100 dollars then is 200 dollars now. That means our car then should have costed like 16250 dollars.

In short: 32500 is too much. if it would have been lets say 22000 or something, I could still slightly understand. It just doesnt make sense that people back then would pay that much for a car like that.
Even a Volkswagen Golf comes at approx. 18000 euros (23600 dollars) right now, which is with a lot of extra electronic stuff etc. Then how does that justify our simple car in 1988 having to cost 32500?
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2014 11:55 pm

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I'm not exactly sure but I think Killrob is saying inflation doesn't exist in game right now, so values in 1988 are the same as 2012 at 2012 levels.
I think.

So the equivalent 1988 version of your 26k golf although technically inferior would also cost about 26k
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