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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:03 am

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I actually think Reaper had one of the better looking ones. It does convey the idea of extreme, non compromising design. Of course, some practical considerations, like the wing reducing the visibility to the front would make this car a bitch to manuever on parkings, but... It'd make up for these problems on a test track, I think.
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Now for real, it's not ugly. But it would have been more appropriate for the 82 challenge. That front just scream 80's escort. And it was in the 80's that the first and only front winged car was sold, the 80's american countach.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:20 am

Re: CTC - Car Tycoon Challenge #2 [RESULTS]

This time it was a pretty tough challenge with lots of people losing money. What is really surprising is that we had no proper supercar among the competitors. Here are the results:

Participants:
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Final Results

Target Groups:
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Participants:
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Total Sales:
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Marketshare per Group:
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Finance Overview:
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Biggest Marketshare (with profit)
1. NormanVauxhall (16.21%)
2. GenJeFT (11.54%)
3. hermmie (10.38%)

Most Profit:
1. Janekk (4.34 billion)
2. Leonardo9613 (3.34 billion)
3. GenJeFT (2.81 billion)

Most Profit per car:
1. Xwing ($22,136)
2. Reaper392 ($17,926)
3. oppositelock ($13,222)

Compact $:
1. NormanVauxhall (38.5%)
2. GenJeFT (20.3%)
3. hermmie (20.2%)

Compact $$:
1. NormanVauxhall (23.4%)
2. hermmie (15.4%)
3. GenJeFT (15.0%)

Hot Hatch:
1. GenJeFT (17.7%)
2. NormanVauxhall (16.9%)
3. hermmie (12.9%)

Mid $:
1. NormanVauxhall (18.5%)
2. GenJeFT (14.9%)
3. hermmie (12.0%)

Mid $$:
1. Bonhin (12.8%)
2. Janekk (9.1%)
3. Leonardo9613 (7.9%)

Mid Sport:
1. Bonhin (10.5%)
2. Reaper392 (9.4%)
3. Dragawn (8.2%)

Large $$:
1. Bonhin (11.8%)
2. Der_Bayer (8.1%)
3. Molotov (7.9%)

Large $$$:
1. Bonhin (14.0%)
2. Der_Bayer (10.6%)
3. bullko (8.8%)

Trackday:
1. Reaper392 (38.8%)
2. Xwing (25.3%)
3. Dragawn (7.4%)

GT:
1. Der_Bayer (11.4%)
2. Bonhin (10.9%)
(3. xAleks (7.9%) - not profitable)

Supercar:
1. Reaper392 (19.5%)
2. Xwing (18.0%)
(3. fralbjabar (17.4%) - not profitable)

Transport:
1. NormanVauxhall (37.2%)
2. Kubboz (19.0%)
3. hermmie (14.0%)

Family:
1. NormanVauxhall (13.2%)
2. GenJeFT (11.7%)
3. hermmie (10.9%)

Offroad $:
(1. Renowrench (20.5%) - not profitable)
2. Kubboz (19.2%)
3. NormanVauxhall (15.4%)

Offroad $$:
1. Janekk (7.2%)
2. NormanVauxhall (6.6%)
3. Kubboz (6.4%)

Price Overview for every player: Google Folder

Grats to the winners and thanks to everyone for participating! I hope you had fun! Please post your thoughts and ideas. Next challenge will start in a few days!
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:44 am

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What? The cars with the most marketshare on the HotHatch group have 0 sportiness!!! That's ridiculous! :x
I feel cheated!
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:49 am

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So that's why the companies that made the cars I based mine on went bankrupt. :lol:

(no one bought them & they were too expensive to make)
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:53 am

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PMP1337 wrote:What? The cars with the most marketshare on the HotHatch group have 0 sportiness!!! That's ridiculous! :x
I feel cheated!

If you want to feel cheated, feel free to do so. Price is more important now (as many people wanted last time) and this made the cheaper cars more attractive. Please consider that they are less than half of your price. People can buy a different engine or tune the shit out of the car for the difference. In addition to that, sportiness is not the only factor which counts.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:58 am

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#11 in market share, and over 300M profit. Sold every car I could possibly build. Not bad for my first try. And as I suspected, I underpriced and underproduced.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:16 am

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I sold EVERY SINGLE car I could make +14 some how. WOW!
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:18 am

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Well... I'm sort of dissapointed in that my car got a place just outside the Top 3 in the compact market (and the overall marketshare). Still, the actual 1st place in Offroad $ (Since I've actually made profit), and Top 3 in Offroad $$ are some nice achievents.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:19 am

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Wow, pretty cut-throat competition this time around. I haven't looked through all price overviews but a lot of people wouldn't make money at any price point, pricing changes kind of skewed market towards winner-takes-all kind of competition, you really gotta bring your A game if you want to make profit. Well fine by me ;) . I'm a bit surprised in the end my pricing turned out so well, missed sweet spot just by 2k.

Der_Bayer how about mid 90s for next competition? I'd like to build something with VVL :mrgreen: .

@PMP1337 TBH outside of sportiness your car had pretty low stats for 20k price. Well I still think minimum standards would be good idea. Car with 0 sportiness probably shouldn't be number one seller in hot-hatch segment, then again 6 comfort is probably too little as well.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:21 am

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GenJeFT wrote:I sold EVERY SINGLE car I could make +14 some how. WOW!

Maybe the workers had a good day. :)

Rounding issues.

Janekk wrote:Der_Bayer how about mid 90s for next competition? I'd like to build something with VVL

The next challenge will indeed be in the modern times.


Regarding the sales calculation model and hard limits: The problem is not the model itself. It's the cars you build. :P ;) Hard limits would have to be rebalanced for every challenge (because modern cars always have some sportiness and old ones often don't and everything changes over the years). I like to keep it on a relative basis. More flexible, less work. In next challenge I can assure you that no 0 sportiness cars will be first in the hot hatch category.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:40 am

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With 0,01% of return on sales and winner on Mid $$, MidSport, Large $$ and Large$$$!! :D :D :D :D

Thx guys was so funny, waiting next challenger.
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:42 am

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Dang... I'm making losses again. At least it isn't as bad as in the first challenge. There must be something that escapes me... maybe I should try to make a more market group focused car rather than making knock-offs of real cars (CRC #1 was a AW11 MR2 rip-off and CRC #2 a Skyline 2000 gt-b rip-off).
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Post Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:57 am

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pHanta wrote:Dang... I'm making losses again. At least it isn't as bad as in the first challenge. There must be something that escapes me... maybe I should try to make a more market group focused car rather than making knock-offs of real cars (CRC #1 was a AW11 MR2 rip-off and CRC #2 a Skyline 2000 gt-b rip-off).


+1

edit: CTC#1 was a Honda CRX for me... which would have been profitable had I built a smaller factory, and priced it in modern dollars. CTC#2 was a Monteverdi/Maserati mash-up.
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