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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:19 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

I'm pretty happy with how it's going so far. I know I can't compare the 2 directly, but, my laptop's being stupid right now, so I can't download it for myself yet. I just wanted an opinion on something. I have a more conservative suspension setup right now, but because of it, my drivability and sportiness are almost exactly even. And it still handles decently. But, if I use a more aggressive setup at the expense of some drivability, would that be better?
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:25 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Well, the tracks are completely uncomparable. Hockenheim needs a fine ballance between power and top speed and cornering ability. I dropped 3 seconds off the initial lap time just by fiddling with the aero and the suspension, and it all lost me quite a bit of time on ATT. The initial ATT time was 2:09 though, if that's what you're asking, but I do not think that's a factor. The drivability. Well... With these seriously unrestricted rules I am guessing most people will have trouble getting their drivability over 10 with track sportiness ranging from 30 and up. The ideal ballance is "drivability over track sportiness", but I honestly do not know how to do that.

Also, Bob, I ran 1100 hp and all it did was never put it all to the ground. As in "Actually never", even at speeds of over 250kph the car was at best at 30-40% throttle, so yeah, power numbers aren't very informative. Also note that the main limiting factor for everybody this time will be the tires. Even though the width is set at a pretty decent 265 you got 2 problems. 1. It's nowhere near enough to handle some of the outputs we can muster up and 2. Since the quality of those must be 0, we are stuck with downsizing the rims, leaving less space for brakes, which ruins drivability. I will be running my NA with some 460+hp

The only body I could find that works around this is the muscle car, it has plenty of roof for wide tires and high profile, so you don't need to limit your brake size, but that thing is ENORMOUS, it would need a collosal engine to pull it and it's weight would get in the way of teh 3rd sector, negating the tire width advantage. If anything I'm running 235 (I think, too many experiments and too lazy to open up automation), and it's pretty much enough traction at speeds over 120, whch suits me just fine.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:28 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

I figured. My drivability is about 36.5 versus 37 sportiness atm. I purposefully did a conservative engine tune for that reason. I'm definitely not tweaking that too much.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:35 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Either it's a brilliant design, or it's not fast enough for Hockenheim. Download that track and start running your car there, then you'll know for sure.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:44 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

My car achieve 2:20.96 on race track with 4500cc 500hp engine.

P.S. after some tuning up, my car break 2:20 wall.
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:36 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

squidhead wrote:Bob, how awful is the powerband? I am running exactly the similar engine setup by the looks of it, but it's pretty good up top, even though I'm running quite a bit less CC


I guess its not THAT bad, but compared to the near flat power bands I strive for, its very peaky. Current iteration is a reliable 3333 cc V8.

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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:20 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

My two cars are entered, will upload pics later in the week
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Post Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:22 pm

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

TheBobWiley wrote:I guess its not THAT bad, but compared to the near flat power bands I strive for, its very peaky. Current iteration is a reliable 3333 cc V8.


I do not see a problem here. :)
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:12 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

The smaller fuel tank's a joke. A brc66 nine stop turns into a '76 14 stopper.

My fastest car is looking at 22 stops!

marcus817 wrote:My car achieve 2:20.96 on race track with 4500cc 500hp engine.

P.S. after some tuning up, my car break 2:20 wall.


Is that a turbo? Because I don't know how to get there.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:17 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Smaller fuel tank? 10 kg/m^2 in 1976 instead of 7 kg/m^2 in 1966 is significantly more.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:17 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

im still trying out what i can do on the non-928-like body.

11" rims and i got that 265mm. needs some pretty big boost on brakes quality though
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:25 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Riso wrote:Is that a turbo? Because I don't know how to get there.

It is N/A. 8-)
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:26 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

it IS up to the regulations right? i really don't think someone could achieve lower than 2:22
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:39 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

Der Bayer wrote:Smaller fuel tank? 10 kg/m^2 in 1976 instead of 7 kg/m^2 in 1966 is significantly more.


Ugh, nevermind I went about this cmopletely the wrong way.
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Post Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:50 am

Re: BRC QuER - Hockenheim 1000 km 1976 [OPEN]

guess what, I forgot to set tyre quality to 0. :oops:
but my car still achieve lower than 2:21
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