BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

[koolkei]

@strop well if you count the drivability..... i may have been better off with my last car.

slightly slower. but better drivability, more reliable and it was already proven on the pre-season test. this move was WAAAAYYYY too bold...

btw, the race is tonight/today right?

[07CobaltGirl]

Looks like my stats are correct, thanks Der Bayer. There are some hilarious choices here, I am highly amused. Jeepers, The Hearse, of course, the Breadvan...

A quick note: the FR not-Datsun 240z coupe body was quite popular and is capable of great cornering G at both low and high speed. The downside is that it sacrifices a lot of drive:sport to do so... not a single entry with >1g average cornering force had a better drive to sport ratio. Similar applied to the most popular body, the swoopy MR body, though in actual fact it was very difficult to get it beyond 1.07/1.00g. Exceptions to this rule include: NormanVauxhall's Znopresk (using a different body again, staying true to the company roots), and Puffster's ABR Roadrunner, which also boasts one of the best safety ratings (and a dry weight of over 1000kg!).

The one I'm keeping my eye on is Riso's car, which actually used much narrower than expected wheels on the front but managed was the only one to achieve better average cornering than my own car for a significantly better drive:sport ratio. It will worsen front tyre wear slightly, but his car is lighter, so the effect may not be that noticeable. On the other hand, my car's sturdier and faster at the top end (but, crucially, slightly slower at the bottom end). When it comes to the AT test track, most of the corners in it are taken anywhere between 40-120km/h so my car would be at a significant disadvantage. But the track list is a real variety, and one will not know what the weather or our pit strategy brings, so that's racing for you!

I hold zero expectations as to how competitive my car will be, all I really want is to score points every race and not crash too hard Godspeed!

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but....

240-body
Baxeg: 1.06/1.02 D/S: 1.08
Puffster (mentioned): 1.11/1.06 D/S: 1.52

MR-body
Dragawn: 1.08/1.03 D/S: 1.01
Marcus817: 1.07/1.02 D/S: 1.02
Matti: 1.01/1.01 D/S 1.03
Riso: 1.07/1.00 D/S: 1.52
strop: 1.06/1.00 D/S: 1.16

Caswal's BreadVan: 1.15/1.03 D/S: 1.04

Unknwn body:
NoahC: 1.08/1.04 D/S: 1.38

NormanVauxhall's car is actually under 1.0 at .9945 D/S.

I'm actually not averaging Gs, but only listing those with > 1G on both measurements. If I average, there are quite a few which are very close to a 1G average and greater than 1.0 D/S.

[Denta]

@strop well if you count the drivability..... i may have been better off with my last car.

slightly slower. but better drivability, more reliable and it was already proven on the pre-season test. this move was WAAAAYYYY too bold...

btw, the race is tonight/today right?

1AM for Jakarta time, just prepare your coffee

[BobLoblaw]

Second biggest engine, awesome. Though there's a typo on the spreadsheet, my car is called the Cortino, not Cortina.

[strop]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but....

240-body
Baxeg: 1.06/1.02 D/S: 1.08
Puffster (mentioned): 1.11/1.06 D/S: 1.52

MR-body
Dragawn: 1.08/1.03 D/S: 1.01
Marcus817: 1.07/1.02 D/S: 1.02
Matti: 1.01/1.01 D/S 1.03
Riso: 1.07/1.00 D/S: 1.52
strop: 1.06/1.00 D/S: 1.16

Caswal's BreadVan: 1.15/1.03 D/S: 1.04

Unknwn body:
NoahC: 1.08/1.04 D/S: 1.38

NormanVauxhall's car is actually under 1.0 at .9945 D/S.

I'm actually not averaging Gs, but only listing those with > 1G on both measurements. If I average, there are quite a few which are very close to a 1G average and greater than 1.0 D/S.

Not really misunderstanding things, I just missed a few things due to looking too quickly

That list may be handy to see what role those cornering figures play (if much at all) in race performance.

[Der Bayer]

Yes, there are issues, mostly caused by BRCTool (choosing wrong files -> peskyboyz) and a wrong power/weight ratio check (I did not warn the people above the limit, including myself). For those people there is a little bit of time to fix the problems. If those who are a little bit over power-weight ratio don't fix their car I will scale down their power figures to acceptable values. My car is completely over the top though because I calculated with kW/kg. Will be fixed.

The 4WD issue is not something I handle differently than the simulation in Automation, so I don't see a reason to change it.

[GenJeFT]

Yes, there are issues, mostly caused by BRCTool (choosing wrong files -> peskyboyz) and a wrong power/weight ratio check (I did not warn the people above the limit, including myself). For those people there is a little bit of time to fix the problems. If those who are a little bit over power-weight ratio don't fix their car I will scale down their power figures to acceptable values. My car is completely over the top though because I calculated with kW/kg. Will be fixed.

The 4WD issue is not something I handle differently than the simulation in Automation, so I don't see a reason to change it.

It would save me something like 80 bucks to put somewhere else... but in all my tests in redistributing those 80 bucks I dont know if I saved time via the work... or a bug. So while aggravating it makes 0 difference other then bragging rights to being the only 4WD car.

I dont know how many people were around with the last BRC where me and someone else whos name escapes me went over submitted cars. (Packbat maybe... I cant remember names at all ). But that can be done again.

Someone has already sent a car but I have been to busy to look at it. I have been on the road a lot with my new insurance inspection contract. Turns out my Subaru is more the capable of blasting though blizzards at 80mph. Who knew.

[07CobaltGirl]

Yeah, it was you and Packbat did them in 3-4 videos, and Killrob joined on one also. I think somebody else joined in on one, but can't remember who it was.

[TheBobWiley]

Dang, bad timing for me, have to drop my mother off at the Airport at 13:00 EST
Guess I'll know how I did whenever the youtube video is up.

[Der Bayer]

Trump cards have been updated. 3 minor issues are remaining, but their power curves can be scaled down if I don't get fixes in time.

[Lothoren]

dammit i didnt sort out the trim


Curse me for not pressing the button.

[Riso]

For those not wanting to compare cards have no fear!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

Very nice but you added 100 Nm torque to my car.

The one I'm keeping my eye on is Riso's car, which actually used much narrower than expected wheels on the front but managed was the only one to achieve better average cornering than my own car for a significantly better drive:sport ratio

I am actually surprised how that shook out because the d:s in-game was only about three points apart.

[RoyalStig]

I'm really hyped for the race now, especially after seeing all the trump cards. I surprised my car did so well in the pre-season tests though, as it gets quite a lot less cornering g's than almost every other car in the field.

[Puffster]

It would save me something like 80 bucks to put somewhere else... but in all my tests in redistributing those 80 bucks I dont know if I saved time via the work... or a bug. So while aggravating it makes 0 difference other then bragging rights to being the only 4WD car.

I am sorry, but you are not the only one who has 4WD

[pyrlix]

@Packbat: I miss your awesome statistics you usually did so far

What i could gather on a quick look was the following

Front RWD: 35 cars
Mid RWD: 29 cars
Rear RWD: 2 cars (Killrob, NormanVauxhall)
Front FWD: 3 cars (Caswal, NoahC, Pyrlix)


For the streaming time:



Everyone is invited to join and watch. People are also invited to join and have a quick talk about their car OR commentate the race for the whole duration.
This race will be live - no prerecorded stuffs, noone knows what will actually happen!