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Post Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:36 pm

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looking forward to this
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Post Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:04 pm

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Did someone say "Super-hot Hatch"? The Proxima is ready to hit the track!

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Post Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:15 am

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Der Bayer wrote:
strop wrote:Quick question: do we get to know what affects tyre wear? Is it the detailed stats or more directly related to our setup? E.g. things like the tyre load stat and wheelspin penalty, or how aggressive our camber is, tyre quality and size?

So far I have the following things on the list (front and rear tyre wear are calculated independently):
  • camber
  • under-/oversteer factor (understeer affects front wheels more, oversteer rear wheels)
  • tyre compound
  • wheelspin stat or maybe tyre grip compared to actual transmitted forces for driven wheels
  • overall driveability (tameness vs. sportiness)

The wheel load stat says if tyres lose contact to the ground in the moose test, so this one is not really suited for tyre wear calculations.

Further suggestions are welcome!


You know what I completely forgot to ask about? Weight distribution! I know that partially factors into the understeer/oversteer, but not entirely.

p.s. okay throwing this one out there. I thought of it as 'If Mazda made the 3MPS an MR hatch...'

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Post Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:53 am

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So I've sent in a test vehicle... It's a 2015 Tishillyman Atata Whippet I cooked up in few minutes. It gib 4.14lt/100km! :D

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Post Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:54 am

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I assume you are OK with multiple entries for this because it is just testing
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Post Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:00 pm

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Here is my entry, the Legatum Elara R-Proto:

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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:34 pm

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New video with a few smaller improvements and a first performance benchmark of your cars: Youtube Video

Feel free to send in revisions of your cars if you are not happy with the performance! :)
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:43 pm

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The video is marked as private D: I can't see anything!
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:17 pm

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Oops, fixed :-)
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:41 pm

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YEAH. EAT THAT ENRY-

I mean, nice race! :P Looks like many of us pitched our economy to last an entire 50 lap race, and Norman's AWD system proved quite advantageous. I think I will work on some tweaks (or a total change of approach), in anticipation for the change!
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:49 pm

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Wow... good test for the Znopresk Zenith X
I was the only one with AWD system?
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:12 pm

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Team "Brotzeit" is taking it slowly and does not care for competition. We are here to chew gum and test tire compositions. Wait, we are all out of gum.. :cry:
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:21 pm

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So THAT's what it looks like to be so far down the charts in car quality! :shock: Not a pretty sight at all... No idea what I'm doing wrong though (other than setup and/or going NA instead of turbo)
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:57 pm

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HighOctaneLove wrote:YEAH. EAT THAT ENRY-

I mean, nice race! :P Looks like many of us pitched our economy to last an entire 50 lap race, and Norman's AWD system proved quite advantageous. I think I will work on some tweaks (or a total change of approach), in anticipation for the change!


I think it's less economy-minded entries and more that it's just really hard to end up with terrible fuel economy if you build a well-tuned naturally-aspirated car.

HighOctaneLove wrote:No idea what I'm doing wrong though (other than setup and/or going NA instead of turbo)


If it makes you feel better, the car that finished just in front of you was FWD.

(Probably a combination of having a bigger, heavier car than everybody else combined with less optimal setup.)
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Post Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:03 pm

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Sayonara wrote:I think it's less economy-minded entries and more that it's just really hard to end up with terrible fuel economy if you build a well-tuned naturally-aspirated car.


Yeah you're right. That said, I deliberately didn't enrich the fuel mix that much to keep the numbers slightly down, though it doesn't seem to have made that much of a difference even when I decided to max out the engine tune just to see what happens. I think my car's going to actually end up weaker :P
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