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Post Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:58 pm

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Trust me, the OP isn't gonna be updated for a long time. I ended the entries short, and for the next 2 days I have exams in school... Sorry guys!

Also, it's only 10:00 here. So technically you have 2 more hours left if you want.

I made a benchmark car, and that has 600 HP if you're wondering. I thought that was overkill alone, so. Yeah. 600 is waaay more than enough, guys :lol:
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Post Thu Jan 29, 2015 3:12 pm

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Considering how even dodge has a 700 hp car, I thought that going 10 over their hellcats was a good plan.

By the way, thanks to Jakgoe for doing a fine tune on the NA, direct injected, VVL engine.
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Post Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:00 pm

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Damn that's a nice benchmark... Not exactly typical for the class of car but then again neither is the Nissan GTR I used to benchmark mine :lol: I decided to try to see what I could get out of a reasonably priced 3.8l 6cyl turbo engine, and it's pretty decent for what it is. The car weighs too much though, only scraped 70kg off for a lot more money using cf vs aluminium. So I ended up having 5k left in the bank as upgrading anything didn't really improve overall and just cost more production units!

Not to worry though, if this car does well enough then I'll get some more appropriate "upgrades" to take it to the competition! Active aero and suspension and LSD would really help, though.
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Post Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:28 pm

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nialloftara wrote:Woohoo! Still not totally happy with my M3 V8 powered M5 rival but hey at least it's like 10 grand under cost for this contest :)


You're still in the competition; my car was about 15k under the max cost :) I tuned an existing car for emissions, but nothing else, in the same way Lexus will tune their car for a particular export market, but it is just tweaking, not building a new car from the ground up. If our cars from our existing line up can compete with (or even beat!) bespoke cars built specifically for this competition, I think we can be pretty happy.
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Post Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:09 pm

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I sort of went for minimum cost, I know the Mercusa's not the most powerful or the quickest, or most luxurious, and it's certainly not sporty, but hey it costs a hair under $15 000, and is pretty economic so I'm happy anyways. Good luck to everyone competing!
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Post Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:16 am

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Cant wait for the results :).
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Post Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:19 am

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I'll put it to you guys like this; I have so many entries, I decided to move all of my old cars that I made into a separate folder just so I can focus on judging xD
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 1:48 pm

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So, this isn't the judging. I'll post results for performance as soon as the final person gets their car in.

I'm awarding people, although they're not advancing or being setback. Because sometimes people go crazy, and it'll be special recognition. Like that one guy who made a car with over 760 HP and 880 ft-lb torque with a 7.4L engine... *COUGH, COUGH*
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:13 pm

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Wow there's a bit more than a Audi A6 TDI between me and that guy...
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 2:16 pm

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Finding myself having performance envy, I regret holding back so much. It's just not my style!

P.s. will try sorting out that funny grille issue is half an hour.

EDIT: Sorted. A path was changed in between versions of a mod download, causing titleguy to be unable to load my car! Sorry for the wait.
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:23 pm

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Yeah, the dude with uber HP will likely take the performance cake. but what about everything else? Titleguy's last competition gave scores for balance. Cars that were too far in one direction and not rounded well didn't do well.
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 4:58 pm

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I like to balance out my contests as Vic said, so obvoiusly if your car has crazy HP and no turning ability, you're not getting full credit in the perf category.
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Post Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:04 pm

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I don't often care about where I finish in balanced competitions, I'm definitely not in this one to win it :P There's also the fact I have no idea how titleguy is actually going to be judging each category.

I held back on the POWA meter because I wanted to change my approaches, play with other things, branch out to see what it was like. Turns out I'm a pure horsepower tyre smoking tear-your-face-off on the track kind of guy, because the feeling of persisting with suboptimal choices to eke as much out of it as possible just doesn't quite get my jollies off. I've got a lot of margin to play with when it comes to money and economy, and I have heaps of points over the baseline in many of the stats......... but I still feel... underpowered. Like instead of a 3.8L 6 cyl like the GTR, I should have gone for like a 5.4L 6cyl that puts out 850bhp and 1000nm (which was easily doable btw, and still did better than 20mpg). THAT'S more my speed. But eh, there's always redevelopment. After all, I'm pretty pleased with the styling, and that's a start.

EDIT: I'm really sorry guys, for some reason my .lua is being really buggy (you're not alone vos, it must be a problem my end!) so titleguy and I had to pull some really weird shit to get things working again. At least, he's got the file now. I hope it works. The specs are a bit off as a result (magic weight gain of 13kg hooray) but othewise, good enough.

While we wait, for a joke, I have the quick rumination on what the car would have been like if I had decided there's no replacement for displacement and used a 5.4L i6 turbo instead of a 3.8L i6 turbo... hello, Veyron-like performance!

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Post Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:17 am

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Well, guys, it's happening! The very first round of judging. Let's see who drives fast, and who is simply left in the other's dust.
Here's a chart thing for recognitions.

:shock: - 0-60 MPH > 3 Seconds
:D - RWD
:o - Top speed >/= 200 MPH


V10I10ilove10cyl- Mentalist GTSR- 6/10: Although it doesn't pack a crazy amount of power, the crazy low weight off sets the power deficiency. Also, redline at 5800 RPM?! Lap time 1:24.80
VicVictory- 2015 Ardent Iroquois RS-T- 7/10: One of the best all-rounders here. Good tires, good power, good everything. Lap time 1:25.20
nialloftara- Centauri Comet GTZ- 7/10: It may be irrelevant, but it sounds like a Nascar in a good way. However, while good in most areas, its weight can't be overshadowed. Lap time 1:29.17
Rollarider10- Mercusa Ramses Mk III APEX- 5.5/10: Although fun to throw around and make huuuuge 4WD powerslides, it doesn't translate into a good lap, nor is it easy with its 205 mm tire. Lap time 1:28.46
doncornaldie- SC-500- 6/10: There's definitely a lot of power coming from this engine, especially from an I6! But, the LAG. Somewhat skinny tires and big roll don't help too much, either. Lap time 1:26.21 :D
Luilakke- Cognoscenti- 6/10: Oh, my! The highest redline of the day! It certainly was fun. However, the roll was comparable to that of a boat. Lap time 1:25.69 :o
HighOctaneLove- 2015 Bogliq Patriarch- 7/10: The power combined with the not-quite-as-good-as-you-want-tires made this our other drift car. Nevertheless, it's very fun. Lap time 1:24.11 :D
xABSOLUTIONx- AED Myst- 9.5/10: Power, acceleration, handling, this car has it all. The light weight and good roll make this a great backroad and track car. Lap time 1:20.9 :shock:
Tycondero- Astana Avenger- 7.5/10: Even though it's the only car in this test with a 5-Speed gearbox, this car is still great to drive. Lap time 1:23.36 :D
ViruTypeR- AMC V8 ZZ-R- 8/10: Another great all-rounder, this car does it all. Great steering and very good tires help it become a true driver's car. And Aston Martin, much? Lap time 1:23.54 :D
ESkuda- Torino- 7/10: A classy looking car, hampered down a little by high weight. Still nice nevertheless. Lap time 1:24.32
vmo- Montes ZD-R MRP- 7/10: The ZD-R rolls a bit, and it isn't the lightest of all cars, but it looks the part. The steering is as good as the car looks. Lap time 1:22.01
AshleyBlack- Black Sterling S- 7/10: The Sterling's power peaks at 6600 RPM, but the redline flies past 8000... Huh. Still, this was one of the flattest cornering cars at the competition. Lap time 1:24.83
onix953- BZ Motors GARIBALDI USS- 5/10: Not the lightest car, nor the fastest. And it redlines at a measly 4500 RPM. But, oh my god... Over 850 lb-ft of torque! Lap time 1:26.61
Razyx- Salo 570 LS- 8/10: Not the most powerful, but for sure it made the most out of what it had. The lap time was very low, considering it didn't breach 600 HP. Lap time 1:21.39
oppositelock- GSI Orcus V- 9/10: Another great lap time for what it has, the Orcus manages to be the 3rd fastest car on the airfield track. Lap time 1:20.04 :o
utopian201- Utopia R- 6.5/10: It may not have sports tires, but it does have 345 mm tires F/R. Cool. The Utopia is the other boat in our competition. Lap time 1:25.39
Chipskate- Decker Super Special 60th Anniversary- 10/10: OMG WAT MORE THAN 760 HP AND OVER 880 LB-FT OF TORQUE WAT. That alone gives it a 10/10. Lap time 1:19.22 :shock:
Rossriders- Weiler Lion15- 7/10: Our final good all-rounder. Everything is great except for the average weight, but I'll take it. Lap time 1:25.22 :D
Leonardo9613- Baltazar Basil GTS- 7.5/10: Another nice car with good power and a high top speed, slightly deterred with OK handling. The power makes up for it. Lap time 1:20.60
Strop, Vosnox- GK-R- 10/10: The person who I had a ton of problems with shines through with, somehow, the fastest lap time of the day! Also, 666 HP! ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED! Lap time 1:18.13 :shock:


CURRENT RANKINGS

21: onix953- BZ Motors GARIBALDI USS- 5 points
20: Rollarider10- Mercusa Ramses Mk III APEX- 5.5 points
17: doncornaldie- SC-500- 6 points
17: V10I10ilove10cyl- Mentalist GTSR- 6 points
17: Luilakke- Cognoscenti- 6 points
16: utopian201- Utopia R- 6.5 points
9: HighOctaneLove- 2015 Bogliq Patriarch- 7 points
9: ESkuda- Torino- 7 points
9: Rossriders- Weiler Lion15- 7 points
9: vmo- Montes ZD-R MRP- 7 points
9: AshleyBlack- Black Sterling S- 7 points
9: VicVictory- 2015 Ardent Iroquois RS-T- 7 points
9: nialloftara- Centauri Comet GTZ- 7 points
7: Leonardo9613- Baltazar Basil GTS- 7.5 points
7:Tycondero- Astana Avenger- 7.5 points
5: Razyx- Salo 570 LS- 8 points
5: ViruTypeR- AMC V8 ZZ-R- 8 points
4: oppositelock- GSI Orcus V- 9 points
3: xABSOLUTIONx- AED Myst- 9.5 points
1: Chipskate- Decker Super Special 60th Anniversary- 10 points
1: Strop, Vosnox- GK-R- 10 points
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Post Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:25 am

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Hooray! I'll gladly take the fastest lap time.

Too bad for drivers of this car that replacing the tyres is going to cost them a bomb at the shop...

I love the faces for the accolades, that's hilarious. A couple of minor proofreading points:

Top speed >/= 200MPH, I think you mean (right now it reads equal to or less than).
Chipskate's car is the second fastest around the car, so oppositlock's car would be the third fastest.
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