Automation Airfield Power Lap Times

[Razyx]

Here is my Sport coupe. A production car with a basic package and standard safety.

Nimrod - 3.0l I6 Turbo -

[Pleb]

Added a rule that prohibits race tubular exhausts to be used on production cars

[Pleb]

And Loyer has marched forth to the top of the race board once more, with their new racer the R3-B lapping the track in just 1:11.8! Will we see a better time?

[pantsman]

Have no idea how you guys are getting into the 11's, i can pull 1:14's all day long with 5-6 different cars and engines but no faster. Anyone getting higher than 1.34g@92.2km/hr laterals? surely 1250kw (1676hp) is enough? gearing is good enough for 2.3second 0-100km/hr and an 8.58 1/4 mile @ about 290km/hr

[Der Bayer]

I suppose you built an undriveable monster. You will lose time in the track simulation if the ratio sportiness/tameness is too high.

[pantsman]

I suppose you built an undriveable monster. You will lose time in the track simulation if the ratio sportiness/tameness is too high.

I was thinking that after checking out the 'wheel spin' rating and the difference between power and acceleration. Back to the garage!

[Razyx]

Have no idea how you guys are getting into the 11's, i can pull 1:14's all day long with 5-6 different cars and engines but no faster. Anyone getting higher than 1.34g@92.2km/hr laterals? surely 1250kw (1676hp) is enough? gearing is good enough for 2.3second 0-100km/hr and an 8.58 1/4 mile @ about 290km/hr

I suppose you built an undriveable monster. You will lose time in the track simulation if the ratio sportiness/tameness is too high.

I was doing 1:12:2 with a version of this prototype (now a test car), and as Der Bayer says a balanced car is needed (with some peculiar adjustments).

XRS 1402 - 5.5l V8 Turbo -

[strop]

Have no idea how you guys are getting into the 11's, i can pull 1:14's all day long with 5-6 different cars and engines but no faster. Anyone getting higher than 1.34g@92.2km/hr laterals? surely 1250kw (1676hp) is enough? gearing is good enough for 2.3second 0-100km/hr and an 8.58 1/4 mile @ about 290km/hr

What kind of engine are you using to put out 1250kw??? I can't find an engine configuration (that actually fits in an engine bay) that would put that much out without needing a turbo, meaning at least 2600kJ/s of cooling, which means a prohibitive degree of air venting and therefore drag! (Hint: I don't know how this translates to your approach but I found using NA engines much easier to use since a 1175kw NA engine only needs about 1500kJ/s!).

In addition, I found to even get close to the Loyer models, you'll have to pull at least 1.4g@94.7km/h laterals. And the 0-100 time matters far less than you might think, I had to gear my car in the strangest fashions to get the ratios in the right powerband.

Because so many different factors interact with each other, the only way to really chip the time down in a competitive fashion is to tune systematically and test every value, and every permutation of every value. Lighter is not necessarily better if you don't have traction. Better handling isn't necessarily better if you don't have the car in the right point on your engine's powerband when exiting a corner. Lower isn't necessarily better, because downforce also changes top speed and top end acceleration. At the pointy end of tuning, a slight change in sway bar stiffness can change the optimal tune for the dampers and springs dramatically, yet the end result may only be a difference of 0.01s. It takes hours to get an optimum tune, and truth be told, I'm still discovering new ways to chip it down. I'm not yet ready to tackle the Airfield, because it took me enough time to tune my models for the Automation Test track, but I can hint right now that my current AT tunes are good enough for 1:11.8 on the Airfield

I was doing 1:12:2 with a version of this prototype (now a test car)

Holy Batman, I'm in love with the back end. I use almost the opposite approach (aesthetic minimalism to the extreme) but this is just crazy space age looks, like a futuristic prototype from the 80s!

[Pleb]

Loyer have been knocked off their perch at the top of the race board! Surely this is unbeatable?

[strop]

Oh I don't know about that... I haven't even properly looked at the camber settings yet! Thus I have absolutely no idea whether what we have here is the best possible, because when you change the cambers, everything else follows... :\

[Hermann95]

@strop: you did some impressive work there
Nothing is unbeatable but at least your test track times will be hard work. 1.5 seconds is quite a margin.
As soon as i find some time(not before wednesday)i'll prapare the Loyer R4 which hopefully can claim the record again.
I already learned sooo much about setting up the car through this challenge that i could say it was worth it and stop it but im a racer and i have to fight back...

[strop]

Cheers Hermann, it was a tough benchmark that you set, and I already turned my car mostly inside out trying to figure out how to get every last hundredth!

I've submitted (unfortunately outdated) information on the Test Track to show you my approach, though I can also tell you that I have a much smaller model (about 850kg), and a much larger model (about 1350kg), that actually all perform very similarly (their times and info sheet will also be submitted and you may find that their times differ by barely 0.1-0.2s!)

That being said, I'm sure there's a way to get even faster. I think a little informal rivalry in the search of something new is a good thing, that's the spirit of racing after all!

[Hermann95]

True words. My race cars actually are pretty different from each other. The R2 for example was pretty light(under 1000kg) and the R3 was much heavier(around 1100kg i think) but the R3 was still faster although heaving just 50hp more.
As stated earlier i'll have a new try hopefully tomorrow with the R4 and i can also give more info on the other models.

[Pleb]

And a new competitor in the world of motorsport has demolished the former track record set by the Reborn Genisis TA. They go by the name of Striker, and their car - the Sprite R, is an innovation in the car design world! Good luck beating this, chaps!

[Stryfe]

You guys will have to think outside the box to beat my Striker Sprite R. I'm pretty sure it will happen though