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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:53 am

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Well again I do really well on fuel economy, not much else though :P
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:53 am

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Hmmm... I'm not the biggest gussler, both 07CobaltGirl and Pyrlix, :shock: , uses more fuel.
Pyrlix? More than 30 hp less, 165 kg lighter and 703cc smaller. What is going on?
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:12 am

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Okay - I'll want to look at how well this bears up in the race, too, but I think my gut instinct is pretty closely borne out: race fuel consumption is proportional to full-throttle fuel consumption at max power (i.e. economy/power at the max power RPMs times max power).

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That said, there's more work to be done to produce a useable equation for other fan competitions, and whatever the equation is, it's going to be track-dependent. (Green Hell has more fuel consumption than other tracks, frex.) But even as rough as this is, a 0.9108 correlation is much, much better than the 0.6483 correlation to nominal fuel economy.

(Edit: For the record, the units on the Y-axis here are g/hr. X-axis is kg.)
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:52 am

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My tire wear is as expected after reducing camber and switching to sports..... however I should have stayed on slicks with how slow my car is. Not looking good for this BRC :(
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:03 am

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I'll put my hope on getting at least some points at Monza and Südschleife. The other three, not a f-ing chance. :cry:
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:37 am

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I burned 15 units (gallons?) of fuel in 10 laps. My front tires were at 66, rear tires at 72. I have the WORST car in the competition for wear & tear!!!! Stupid wheel spin....
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:41 am

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Maybe you were channeling Jeremy Clarkson when you designed it? :) "POWWAARRR!!!!" :lol: :lol:

Edit: I think the unit is kg of fuel. 1kg = 1.32l = 0.35 gallon(us)
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:46 am

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Confirmed - it's kilograms. (I asked Der Bayer a while ago.)

Also, 07CobaltGirl, given that power is restricted per kilogram of vehicle, I think the more relevant fuel consumption stat is fuel/tonne - and you're barely over average (14.5 kg/tonne vs. an average of 13.5 kg/tonne).

Edit: As for the tyres ... well, one of the circuits is the Norisring, and that has approximately zero tyre wear, so....
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:53 am

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Yes, but my car likes the straights! Bonneville, anybody? :D
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:29 am

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07CobaltGirl wrote:Yes, but my car likes the straights! Bonneville, anybody? :D


Try your entry on Monza. Won't be correct, because the differences in versions, but anyway. Was kinda nice to see the last part of the track, pretty much flat out all the way. :)
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:51 am

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Just did a calculation. 20-6.37=13.63kg of fuel x1.32 = 17.99l -> 10 laps = 48.07 km -> 100/48.07=2.0803 -> 17.99x2.0803=37.42l/100km

37.42l/100km..... :shock: yeah.... don't think this will qualify as eco racing. :lol:
(6.29mpg(us))
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:09 am

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

...I'm totally stealing that. Using the same conversions:
  • Best economy was BlastersPewPew, at 16.5 l/100 km (14.3 mpg).
  • Worst was 07CobaltGirl, at 43.2 l/100 km (5.44 mpg).
  • The ratio of actual fuel consumed to nominal fuel economy ranged from a minimum of 2.64 (9.98 nominal, 26.3 actual) to a maximum of 5.05 (6.88 nominal, 34.7 actual).
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:13 pm

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Maybe a consumtion per liter of engine calculation would be fun.
If so, my engine would use (11.68l/100km)/Engine L. (37.42/3.203=11.68)
07CobaltGirl is a little better at (9.93l/100km)/Engine L. (43.2/4.349=9.93)
And BlasterPewPew would get (16.3l/100km)/Engine L. (16.5/1.015=16.3)
Hmmmm.... interesting. :geek:
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:24 pm

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

Oof, I haven't read out the displacements yet - I'll get back to you on that. ;)

(Edit: I've got a massive spreadsheet full of empty cells to fill.)
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Post Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:43 pm

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So, yeah, my car still sucks! hahahaha

I'm officially the worst car builder in Automation! (ok, not really, but still....)
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