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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:02 am

Re: Bavarian Rallye Challenge: The Real Deal [FINISHED]

A valiant first effort for the Golimar cars, all things considered.

Next entries will receive a much more refined tuning (i.e. I'm going to actually read the guides posted before trying my hand at it).
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:09 am

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Considering the circumstances of how my Super 1000 car was tossed together, I'm very happy with the result there. As for the 1100 class, meh. Was hoping to get a top 15, but I barely missed out on that.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:22 am

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Reaper392 wrote:Thought it wouldn't be but i wasn't quite sure. Is there some way you can detect if the car is riding on its bump stops during the corner tests at various speeds? If you can do that then you could penalise the grip of that tyre based on how fast the car is going and the minimum speed that the car can hit its bump stops. Again, not realistic, but fixes the problem of these setups

It could be detected, yes. But I do think that the basic over- and understeer calculations is somewhat correct. You just don't see the effect of the bump stops in the track simulation because the bumpiness is only parametrized and not really simulated. I would rather go for the approach of a second, more severe bump test (5 cm?), which causes more penalties for comfort and tameness if you choose a low ride height and soft springs. In reality, you have to choose hard springs when using a low ride height, too. So this would also be good for the tycoon aspect (which should be the focus), not only the track sim.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:37 am

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I'm not last, nice! :D I' lucky with 74th position an will try to get better next time.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:50 am

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Personally I'd use 10 cm over 5, as would be used for a speed bump.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 5:59 am

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But then you would have to drive slowly over the bump and it would have to have the right profile. :) Driving slow would mean that the body has time to move upwards, too. It's about finding the right balance of speed and height of the obstacle. Finding that compromise is not easy, because 500 kg cars and 3000 kg cars have to drive with the same speed if you want results you can compare. But if you drive too fast with a light car, it just bounces all over the place. :)

Just for info: The currently used 2 cm bump is a short (0.05 seconds -> 0.5 meters long at 10 m/s) rectangular profile.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 6:02 am

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It'd certainly make sure of tameness! Also comfort, but that's less something I care about in my cars :twisted:
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 7:23 am

Re: Bavarian Rallye Challenge: The Real Deal [FINISHED]

Top 5%, perfectly according to my goal.
Thanks Der Bayer for organizing this whole event!

As to WRT's suspension setup, good find, can't deny that, but I think that we can agree that in the real world the outcome could've been very different indeed.

It was great "racing" amongst you guys, one blast of a week.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 8:08 am

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Great job, to the winners, but especially to Der Bayer

The effort that has been put into making this thing work, I guess, was enormous. I wouldn't be able to do the same.

Thanks for the challenge and the entertaining week!
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 9:44 am

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It#s been fun, thanks to Der bayer and all else who help set-up and run the event.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 10:07 am

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Thank you Der Bayer & helpers, it has been great fun!
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 10:47 am

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Well I am a bit surprised. The car I thought would do well did really badly, the car I thought would do really badly, ended in the first 25. Surprise.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 12:31 pm

Re: Bavarian Rallye Challenge: The Real Deal [FINISHED]

Excellent competition! I learned way more than I will remember. haha

BRC1100 is a 37th finish, and with the exception of the 6th stage, managed only a 20s deficit with each stage. I was fiddling with my cars some more last night and managed to drop nearly 5s from my BRC1100 car and almost 12s from my S1000 car (on the 1st stage that is). Of course, adding 25% more kW certainly was an improvement. If only I had taken the time to do that BEFORE the submission deadline! ;)

A very special and heart-felt thank you to Der Bayer and the others who helped put this together, and to each and every competitor who commented here. I learned almost as much reading comments about the races as I did from actually running in them.
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 6:34 pm

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It has been a great competition, i'd like to thank Der Bayer and all the staff fo their work!
Can't wait to take part in the next challenge :)
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Post Wed May 14, 2014 6:54 pm

Re: Bavarian Rallye Challenge: The Real Deal [FINISHED]

There will be no next challenge (at least I won't host another one). :)
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