AMWEC '15 [Finished]

[iRaptor]

We're not so sure whether Scirocco Racing will be able to build their entry in time. Although the Avantis-HHC is done, we are not happy by the way our project is going. We are not looking forward having a prototype entry with a car body that has nothing to with the essences of this group of cars and we have hard times having a proper trim going near the weight limit. And our very small team of designers, chiefs, engineers and mechanics, all having side projects, will face hard times combining the build of our entry and doing what they have to do?

We have already set our development path and we still have a long way to go before being at the limit of our potential. The chassis in itself is still too heavy for our taste, our engine still has some throttle issues and the car costs too much. Thankfully some points which are pushed thoroughly are already set at a proper level.

We will be hoping to finish every races without any major incident. We've set the bar very high due to the fact that the AMWEC is one of our very first championship, and all of our competitors are much more experienced than we are, especially when it comes to very powerful cars or breaking lap records.

[Sillyworld]

Meliora Automotive is glad to present their new AP1 car, the M128.
Maybe Meliora has almost not reputation as a racing car builder, but with this project we expect to gain a respectable place and prove the potential of our engineering.

[Sillyworld]

Now, for the AP2 class, Meliora Motorsport a division of Meliora automotive, presents the M8-R.



(I'm publishing the stats so you can see that my cars accomplish the regulations)

[koolkei]

seeing the car post here........ i cant help but let out my chuckle and giggles.....

i obsessed the 'endurance' part, to the point that i..... maybe i deserve a title....


* my AGTE car to be submitted

like 'you can't out-strop strop'. but it's me 'you cant out-koolkei koolkei'..... no?

or maybe i'll just shut up



TL;DR i made a tank

[koolkei]

i've been trying to make the car for AP2....... how the hell do you get the weight to be that low..... it seems impossible for me to get below 1ton
it's just impossible unless i use carbon fibre, which is over the top expensive, which could've been used for putting more somewhere else

[iRaptor]

I also had issues going anywhere near 940KG. With some quick fixes I went to struggle keeping the car over 900KG while cutting costs. It was a bit hard but I've finally done it. I still need to work on some other points though.

And I'm full on carbon fiber.

[koolkei]

^
tried that. glued aluminum chassis+polymer panel adds up to around 15-17k on my first rough draft
full carbon fibre chassis+panel? up to 30k. so not much space for components improvements

so i said fudge that, into the bin it goes, im going heavy load.



also.... could anyone explain to me how that excel/spreadsheets work?

i input my car data lap and tire choice on the left. well that's pretty much all i understand

- how do i get my time for 1 lap and the flying lap?
- how do i get it to count more than 2 laps?
- 'brake sportiness combined' is what in-game?


this is another total derp for me...... i just finished the cars for all 3 classes...... but havent tested any of them on the spreadsheets yet..... turns out. i dont even know how to excel

[squidhead]

this is another total derp for me...... i just finished the cars for all 3 classes...... but havent tested any of them on the spreadsheets yet..... turns out. i dont even know how to excel

Do like I did. This is fairly complicated but I'll try my best to explain it step by step

1. Build a car
2. Make sure it's compliant with all the rules
3. Send it over to participate in the series
4. Hope for the best
5. You are now officially on your way to become Top Gear's "Ambitious but rubbish" project

[Sillyworld]

how the hell do you get the weight to be that low..... it seems impossible for me to get below 1ton
it's just impossible unless i use carbon fibre

I also had issues going anywhere near 940KG. With some quick fixes I went to struggle keeping the car over 900KG while cutting costs. It was a bit hard but I've finally done it...
And I'm full on carbon fiber.

Just mix carbon fiber with other light material. My first attempt for the AP2 class weighted less than 900 kg, I had to add weight.
Small car + small engine = light car
Also keep in mind that some of the fancy stuff in the suspension tab adds weight.

- how do i get my time for 1 lap and the flying lap?

For the flying lap time I will add a dowload link with the tracks with flying lap added to them

- how do i get it to count more than 2 laps?

He he he, it's a little bit tricky (and cumbersome). First, check that you activate iterative calculations. Then, select from C23 to AG23, then drag all the way down to around row 600. Look for Z21 cell and select true, then false. Then scroll down until you see a cell with value in a red box in the enlapsed time column, that is your final lap. Just erase everything below that. Finally go to cell k15, select it and click enter, that will update the value. PROFIT. It's quite a derped system, but is quite easy to use once you understand it. I will probably will do a special program later instead of using spreadsheets .

-brake sportiness combined' is what in-game?

The brake sportiness value from the front and the rear combined

EDIT: I'll do a little video explaining how to use the spreadsheet.
EDIT 2: I just realized that there's no Fuji speedway circuit in automation yet, so, I'm making it too.

[iRaptor]

Just mix carbon fiber with other light material. My first attempt for the AP2 class weighted less than 900 kg, I had to add weight.
Small car + small engine = light car
Also keep in mind that some of the fancy stuff in the suspension tab adds weight.

Mine is as I wanted now. I'll get some tweaks underway when the engineers and I have free time

I know I can shed some good weight on some parts, and if I manage what I have in mind then I'll be quite happy

[Vri404]

Both of my entries are full carbon fiber, and both weigh about 50-100kg over the weight minimum. And they are both under-budget.

[DoctorNarfy]

Well I must Admit that takes a Lot Of skill, I can't Imagine What corners need to be cut in order to achieve that. As a matter of fact, one of my cars was overpowered for it's weight, so I Dropped Carbon Fiber Completely. It Either Makes Me Very Brave Or Incredibly Dumb.

[Vri404]

My "Cost Cutting" was a small, low-power engine. Not that hard.

[Vri404]

I've just done a small article on the AMWEC. if anyone would like to do an interview, I'll send you the questions. If anyone wishes to tease their cars looks as well, send me an image. I'll be covering this event closely (after December 20th, that is)

Article is here on page 2: http://automationgame.com/phpBB3/viewto ... 308#p87308

[koolkei]

tried it. nope. it's a whole 7 seconds slower than my heavier car in the green hell.... and the heavier one is also more reliable.
up to 15 minor accidents before it needs a repair.

in case anyone wondering. the final weight of it end up closer to 1200Kg, and it's also less than a second slower than my AP1 car.....


also..... it seems every major accident is unrepairable. so what happens then? there seems to be A LOT of them in my sheets