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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:39 am

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Well, at least my car will be cheap to race since it drinks so little :P Other than that...........yeah, doubt it will qualify :P
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:12 pm

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Hey Packbat. Would you want to make a video looking at the cars one by one?
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:41 pm

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So, I probably should have used a spreadsheet, but I don't think I made any major errors in my calculations - if I have, please forgive me.

The highest power/volume engines are mattmr2's flatplane V8 with 120.3 hp/l, Locust's flatplane V8 with 117.5 hp/l, and RubenSL's flatplane v8 with 116.7 hp/l. Excluding vmo's DQed car (which has an I6 producing 114.4 hp/l), for the other engine configurations, you have BlastersPewPew with an inline-four making 107.7 hp/l, TheBobWiley's crossplane V8 making 107.0 hp/l, and my own (Packbat's) inline-six making 80.5 hp/l.

At the other end of the scale, 07CobaltGirl's crossplane V8 produces 49.4 hp/l, GenJeFT's I6 produces 53.5 hp/l, and mer_at's crossplane V8 produces 56.2 hp/l. Killrob's flatplane V8 is actually next in line with 57.2 hp/l, and the lowest power/volume out of an inline-four is 69.6 hp/l from HighOctaneLove's.

In the power/cylinder list, Lordred's inline-four takes top honors at 43.75 hp/cyl, HighOctaneLove's inline-four takes second with 34.75 hp/cyl, and RobtheFiend's inline-six takes the bronze with 33.67 hp/cyl. To no-one's surprise, of the crossplane V8s, 07CobaltGirl's produces the most power per cylinder at 26.88 hp/cyl. If 23dutch45man's car with its 310 horsepower* flatplane V8 were not DQed, its 38.75 hp/cyl would actually have beaten out HighOctaneLove; as it stands, the top flatplane V8 is Locust's with 22 hp/cyl.

At the bottom of the list are three flatplane V8s: NormanVauxhall's and mattmr2's with 13.13 hp/cyl and Absurdist's with 13.25. For the other engine types, we have CWRules's crossplane V8 making 15.75 hp/cyl, GenJeFT's inline-six making 21.5 hp/cyl, and BlastersPewPew's inline-four making 27.25 hp/cyl.

* As RobtheFiend guessed, the two DQed cars were accidentally designed to 0.2 kW/kg instead of 0.2 hp/kg.

GenJeFT wrote:Hey Packbat. Would you want to make a video looking at the cars one by one?

...maybe? I'd like permission from everyone whose car we review, though - they didn't sign up to have their design decisions put under a microscope, so I would want to be sure people are okay with that. I assume you would broadcast it on Twitch and I would call in via Skype?
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:59 pm

Re: BRC 1955 - The Golden Age [TRUMP CARDS]

I, for one, would like to hear what you have to say about my creation.
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:03 pm

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Oh, and per the request on the previous page:
07CobaltGirl wrote:Calculate my car to be faster while you're at it. ;)

07CobaltGirl's car is thirteenth out of thirty-eight on fuel economy per weight, at 8.86 l/100 km-t (liters per hundred kilometer-metric tons). Top three are zabhawkin (7.09 l/100 km-t), 8bs (7.20 l/100 km-t), and UltimateBMWfan (7.34 l/100 km-t); bottom three are Dobble (13.01 l/100 km-t), peskyboyz (12.67 l/100 km-t), and RubenSL (12.23 l/100 km-t).

;)

Preview-Edit: Cool - I'll put you on the list if we do this. :)
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:06 pm

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Hey, cool! 13 was my number for the 1945 BRC!!!! ;)

Oh, and if I had any problem with critiquing my work, I would have already spoken up about it. It's really interesting to find out how my car stacks up against the others off the track. On the track, it....well....sucks! hahaha

EDIT:

'Round and 'round, and 'round she goes.
Will she beat her first lap? E'r'body knows.
With no rubber left, her tires are all muck.
Quite simply stated, her cars really suck!


:D
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:11 pm

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Packbat wrote: The undisputed fastest is Razyx, at 6.8 s.


I found that amusing, because i experimented with the coupe and also got a 0-100kph in 6.8s. But I ended not using because not enough g's and less drivable.
Definitely NOT looking forward for Monza though :lol:
Caution : exhibits bias towards high-reving NA engines.
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:14 pm

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Packbat wrote:
GenJeFT wrote:Hey Packbat. Would you want to make a video looking at the cars one by one?

...maybe? I'd like permission from everyone whose car we review, though - they didn't sign up to have their design decisions put under a microscope, so I would want to be sure people are okay with that. I assume you would broadcast it on Twitch and I would call in via Skype?


Permission would probably be a good idea. I kinda figured that if people submitted their car into the contest it was kinda a given there was permission to show them. But permission might be a good idea.

My plan was to actually record it with Xsplit and then load it to youtube because my bandwith makes for some bad Twitch streaming. I can do a test stream this week to see what the quality is like and people here are free to watch as a quality check. If that fails I will just record and upload the video to youtube.

If you were wondering how you were going to see the cars while we talk about them I was going to share my screen via skyp so you can see what I am looking at. Me and my friend did some recording yesterday where we shared screens via skyp and did a recording and got fairly good quality from skyp to see what each of us were looking at. I will actually be using that skyp trick to do screen in screen recordings with KSP in the future and possibly other games.

So, who wants to see me throw together a car that would be compatible with the competition as a form of tutorial this week on twitch?
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:23 pm

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07CobaltGirl wrote:Hey, cool! 13 was my number for the 1945 BRC!!!! ;)

Oh, and if I had any problem with critiquing my work, I would have already spoken up about it. It's really interesting to find out how my car stacks up against the others off the track. On the track, it....well....sucks! hahaha

EDIT:

'Round and 'round, and 'round she goes.
Will she beat her first lap? E'r'body knows.
With no rubber left, her tires are all muck.
Quite simply stated, her cars really suck!


:D


LOL! We have a poet in our midst! Good thing the tires only wear down to 0.50. (if the races were 45min or more, then you would be in deep, erm... trouble.)
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:24 pm

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I'm already in deep shit. I can't make it 10 laps without burning them to the steel rims. I'm gonna have massive tire failures in most of the races, I'm sure.
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:39 pm

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@07CobaltGirl: I have to confess, a major component of my race strategy is, "keep the tyres from wearing out long enough to catch up to 07CobaltGirl". :)

GenJeFT wrote:My plan was to actually record it with Xsplit and then load it to youtube because my bandwith makes for some bad Twitch streaming. I can do a test stream this week to see what the quality is like and people here are free to watch as a quality check. If that fails I will just record and upload the video to youtube.

If you were wondering how you were going to see the cars while we talk about them I was going to share my screen via skyp so you can see what I am looking at. Me and my friend did some recording yesterday where we shared screens via skyp and did a recording and got fairly good quality from skyp to see what each of us were looking at. I will actually be using that skyp trick to do screen in screen recordings with KSP in the future and possibly other games.

Okay, that works. I guess the only challenge remaining will be stopping me from spending ten billion years talking about every car. :lol:

...seriously, though - if we're doing this, we need to figure out a time and how long we'll spend per car.

So, who wants to see me throw together a car that would be compatible with the competition as a form of tutorial this week on twitch?

If I'm free, sure. :)
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:42 pm

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As a few has pointed out, my car has 0 reliability and a really weird power curve.... I don't understand. I didn't send in a car like that. Perhaps there's a problem with the rev limiter? It SHOULD be set to something like 7500rpm from memory. Could I bother you to check that out? Because I have no such problem on my car. You also mentioned that it was over price too, none of this appears for me
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:51 pm

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PM me your car, AshleyBlack? I don't have any authority w.r.t. the BRC 1955, but I can open up the car and page through the tabs to see if I see anything funky.
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 2:59 pm

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Packbat wrote:PM me your car, AshleyBlack? I don't have any authority w.r.t. the BRC 1955, but I can open up the car and page through the tabs to see if I see anything funky.


I just deleted the car and downloaded the file I sent in and sure enough, the car was very odd. It was over priced so I just turned the suspension to -5. A handicap I think to be fair. The 0 reliability was because for some reason the rpm limit was set to 12000! It's supposed to be 7400rpm.
I set a message explaining all this. Hopefully it's not too late to give it a quick fix before competition starts.
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Post Tue Jun 09, 2015 3:02 pm

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Saving bug strikes again. Hope they get it fully eradicated for the next update.
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