The Gren Hell Hot Hatches contest [Finally RESULTS]

[strop]

Yes, that's true, there is some variability in the results on testing, even independent of the aero thing, for some funny reason. I'm not sure what it is either.

On most tracks I don't mind that little difference, but it will translate to at least half a second on Nordschleife, which is what bothers me! I know I've sent in like 3 revisions already, but may I send a final one with the adjusted fixtures just to get that sorted? It won't change the stats otherwise, and I promise that'll be the last one

[ViruTypeR]

Before 30th all revisions are allowed, but no important changes in chassis or drivetrain (Well if HighOctaneLove wants to remodel his car i'll admit it, has a base problem for the utility).

Also need to say that i see, your's car weight was not updated in my xls, your power/weight ratio is the same that my car and CheftonUTD, 4,36kg/hp.

[HighOctaneLove]

Before 30th all revisions are allowed, but no important changes in chassis or drivetrain (Well if HighOctaneLove wants to remodel his car i'll admit it, has a base problem for the utility).

Also need to say that i see, your's car weight was not updated in my xls, your power/weight ratio is the same that my car and CheftonUTD, 4,36kg/hp.

I picked my car because of the aesthetics as I was aware of the utility shortfall but thought that some variety would make for a more interesting competition . The car I made is something that I'd personally choose over the usual turbo 4 cylinder AWD's that'll be all over this comp and I'm bored with trying to win at all costs; if I wouldn't buy it, I won't enter it! I passed all the requirements other than the one for utility (out of my hands) so I'm very happy with my entry being able to qualify in the first place!

[strop]

The car I made is something that I'd personally choose over the usual turbo 4 cylinder AWD's that'll be all over this comp

I got that feeling too, but in fact the best solution here isn't necessarily a turbo 4 cylinder... it's probably a naturally aspirated V8. It's got better prestige for 8 cylinders, can easily make 300hp at low displacements (so it can fit any which way you like), be made to be more efficient, use cheaper tech, is essentially half price because it doesn't use turbo, and is tamer, but also sportier and more comfortable because it's more way responsive. If I used a RWD V8 instead of a FF turbo i4 I could have way better points in tameness, sportiness, comfort and prestige easily and have money in hand and use no more gas at the pump, plus go as fast, if not faster around the track. The main thing that balances it out is the loss of utility. Also, I wouldn't use the not-2002 Civic shell, I'd use the not-2000 Civic shell as it's lighter and frankly easier to fit everything in and I could use 4 seats if I wanted to sacrifice a few points of utility, I could get all round better performance and comfort and times around the track by sinking the extra money into the tyres. In this scenario, using AWD actually can be a drawback, because it wrecks your choice of engine and body, puts an extra hundred plus kilos on your car and the powers we're getting generally isn't enough to make a positive difference to most aspects of performance.

But like highoctanelove, while I know how to 'win' this challenge, I insist on using a 'faithful' format typical of hot hatches because the extra challenge is more fun that way. It definitely won't win (as you can see, it's already actually the slowest car in most aspects of straight line performance), but I'm interested to see how it does against its mostly higher powered competitors on the track. Plus it has insanely good utility rating! (not something you'd ever catch a Gryphon Gear tuner saying ever...)

[CheftonUTD]

the best solution here isn't necessarily a turbo 4 cylinder... it's probably a naturally aspirated V8.... The main thing that balances it out is the loss of utility....
In this scenario, using AWD actually can be a drawback, because it wrecks your choice of engine and body, puts an extra hundred plus kilos on your car and the powers we're getting generally isn't enough to make a positive difference to most aspects of performance.

I don't know about that, I'm getting an absurdly high utility score out of my NA V8 powered car .
You are probably right about AWD hurting performance though, my lap time is quite poor to say it nicely. I'm currently leading in 0-100kph times though at least.

[strop]

oh yeah good point. The added "go slippery places" of AWD (this is something that will receive much further refinement when the diffs come in, as actual 4WD setups get big offroad boosts), probably ups its utility a lot and offsets any potential loss of cargo space as a result of the extra drivetrain.

[ViruTypeR]

Guys, but remind, this is an overall competition and the balance is the best way (and i like the variety of transmissions and engines), and also the best cars in each feature will catch protagonism. I'm thinking in a review with images and a short texts like a Magazine, don't be sad lol all your cars will appear in one way or another.

[Razyx]

I've sent my entry

The Gato P6.

[ViruTypeR]

I've sent my entry

The Gato P6.

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[Razyx]

Thanks ViruTypeR!!

I was reviewing the car now i've seen it on the OP and, crap!!, always forgot the slicks..., and 'allocate' those quality 'points' in a clever way
PS: nevermind.

[Astraman]

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I've submitted the 200 series, great car but will it be good enough....?

[ViruTypeR]

I don't know why, but trying to load the final cars the game is crashing in the free mode, with this message and only some cars appear

[nialloftara]

Family? Sounds like someone submitted a beta release car in here by mistake.
Remove each car one at a time to find the one causing it then tell them to resubmit with a public release file, then yell at them for teasing us. ;p

[ViruTypeR]

Family? Sounds like someone submitted a beta release car in here by mistake.
Remove each car one at a time to find the one causing it then tell them to resubmit with a public release file, then yell at them for teasing us. ;p

Yes, was AshleyBlack's car, now i can load again.

[ViruTypeR]

Don't worry for the latest entries, i'm a bit busy and didn't say anything, but i will take all the cars before this midnight.