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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:00 am

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From that angle the 69cc reminds me of the Citroen CX
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:09 am

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Kubboz wrote:What does not make sense to me is that you are for some reason not counting cargo space as the part of utility. There is a reason utility is not that much of a factor in compact class - while it is nice to have some cargo space and load capacity, cheaper bodies (and having a small body, as in not a longer estate, but a shorter hatchback, definitely helps) are the way to go. This is also the reason why main factor for transport is utility and why a station wagon would have more of it.

I was told by killrob that utility benefits from smaller size.
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:23 am

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Both of you are right. Volume per footprint is what counts for utility.
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 am

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Der Bayer wrote:Both of you are right. Volume per footprint is what counts for utility.

Now I get it.

What will be the number of buyers for each class?
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:34 am

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First I just want to say your challenge convinced me to finally buy the game even before launch on STEAM ;)

Because so many people already sent Combi clones, I scrapped the one I prepared during beta and made this angry car from scratch instead.
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:38 am

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PMP1337 wrote:
Der Bayer wrote:Both of you are right. Volume per footprint is what counts for utility.

Now I get it.

What will be the number of buyers for each class?

This... ;)
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:44 am

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I asked because I'm having trouble with breaking even for the market share I am expecting. On the test almost everyone priced their cars too cheap.
And on this one there will be even more entries. :?
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:47 am

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No, this:

Der Bayer wrote:These are the target groups (the number of people in each groups scales with the number of participants, but the share in percent will stay the same).
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:21 am

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Jakgoe wrote:No, this:

Der Bayer wrote:These are the target groups (the number of people in each groups scales with the number of participants, but the share in percent will stay the same).

Guess I missed it. That is nice then. Hope lots of people join.
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:46 am

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Jakgoe wrote:No, this:

Der Bayer wrote:These are the target groups (the number of people in each groups scales with the number of participants, but the share in percent will stay the same).


Whoa, I've missed too... Sorry, my bad. :oops:
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:30 pm

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PMP1337 wrote:I asked because I'm having trouble with breaking even for the market share I am expecting. On the test almost everyone priced their cars too cheap.
And on this one there will be even more entries. :?


Was your car Test_Cheapo_Sportscar? ( If it was then don't be too disheartened. I tried several cars in that last test and the only serious entry not to make a profit was the cheap sports car (well, it was aimed at the track day market but that's close enough). It was priced at almost double your car's cost despite having significantly less factory, material and production costs. The graph shows that it is another cheap sports car that just couldn't make a profit no matter what price it was set at.

One piece of advice we can both take from that test is that both our factories were way too big. Mine could cope with 100000 cars and yours could cope with ~175000 cars, yet we both only sold around 25000 cars. Smaller factories would have saved us both a lot of money which could possibly have given us a bit of profit, but it appears that this market was quite hard to make a profit in with those target group values.

Obviously if that isn't your car then this post wont help you much :P
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Post Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:13 pm

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Reaper392 wrote:
PMP1337 wrote:I asked because I'm having trouble with breaking even for the market share I am expecting. On the test almost everyone priced their cars too cheap.
And on this one there will be even more entries. :?


Was your car Test_Cheapo_Sportscar? ( If it was then don't be too disheartened. I tried several cars in that last test and the only serious entry not to make a profit was the cheap sports car (well, it was aimed at the track day market but that's close enough). It was priced at almost double your car's cost despite having significantly less factory, material and production costs. The graph shows that it is another cheap sports car that just couldn't make a profit no matter what price it was set at.

One piece of advice we can both take from that test is that both our factories were way too big. Mine could cope with 100000 cars and yours could cope with ~175000 cars, yet we both only sold around 25000 cars. Smaller factories would have saved us both a lot of money which could possibly have given us a bit of profit, but it appears that this market was quite hard to make a profit in with those target group values.

Obviously if that isn't your car then this post wont help you much :P


It was mine actually xD. It was not a serious entry though. At least I compensated that with my Test_Luxury_Car then
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Post Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:26 am

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I guess my advice didn't help much then :P

PMP, if you let me know which cars were yours I'll give you what advice I can.
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Post Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:01 am

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Reaper392 wrote:I guess my advice didn't help much then :P

PMP, if you let me know which cars were yours I'll give you what advice I can.

I had no cars on the test. I'm just using the data to make my cars and pick one for the challenge.
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