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Post Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:20 pm

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

wew. 3rd highest power. that i didn't expect. also small V8 FTW

but... cars seems to have relatively low torque compared to the power
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Post Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:39 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

squidhead wrote:
iRaptor wrote:I'm interested to see how people went to deal with turbo drivability :)
That's the main reason about why I dropped that option personally


I dropped it due to consumption of close to 35-40 liters / 100km. It was a 2 liter with 720 hp. Anyways, driveability was not that bad, about 27 IIRC, good gearing helped.


27 before the update?
To me that was nowhere near enough. Drivability is key as it will allow having no minor accident. I didn't see the point in trying to make a faster car over a lap and risk losing all that time gain because of a minor accident. And I could get to the weight limit even without turbo anyway so that was all fine.

However I might have gone a bit overboard with drivability as I went as far as using a suspension setup giving me the biggest amount of that, and thus having a negative impact on laptimes by not taking into account the track/car characteristics.

Still, I'm hopeful about the Interlagos race. Can't wait for it!
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Post Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:46 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

Yeaaaaaah.... I went with a Turbo here as an experiment. Drivability was very low. I'm pretty sure that's why I'm at the bottom of the leaderboards with my AP2 and AGTE cars.
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Post Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:08 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

Initially, I was looking forward having a great deal of torque but that killed my drivability.
When I had a look at the rules and the sheet, I found out that drivability was key into making it to the distance, especially as I had done my car when major accidents were still here.
That's why my cars are awfully slow over a lap.

I've got my hands on making an AGTE trim, and I'm quite impressed by the fastest AGTE.

Sillyworld, you mentioned a loophole about engines. Which one is it?
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:15 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

Race is today! :D
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:06 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

Why you do this?! :D
When I saw unread mark at AMWEC I already got super excited and than this^... I hope the gird will be mixed up compared to first race so it will be more intense :)
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:15 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race december 13th + AP2 SPOTTER GUIDE]

iRaptor wrote:Sillyworld, you mentioned a loophole about engines. Which one is it?

I thought there were one, but I was wrong :? Anyways...

Here are the "Qualifying Results" (just the flying lap times without any randomization or fuel weight effect)

  • Sepang
    01:41.310
  • Zeus GT Spec
    01:41.490
  • Prima
    01:41.700
  • Alpha
    01:42.100
  • M128 LM
    01:42.620
  • Adelaide
    01:42.630
  • MEX
    01:42.670
  • Beta
    01:42.850
  • Boss-kart
    01:43.390
  • Vulcan GT
    01:43.420
  • Il Capo
    01:43.470
  • Gamma
    01:43.590
  • Shromet dragon
    01:43.670
  • M8-R
    01:43.790
  • Banshee
    01:43.950
  • Shadowbird
    01:44.120
  • Exilus
    01:44.170
  • NV810
    01:44.270
  • RRSX-R
    01:44.340
  • Garuda
    01:44.370
  • Silverun
    01:44.490
  • Exilus AP1
    01:44.730
  • LMT 90
    01:44.750
  • Boss 499
    01:45.180
  • Spidar!
    01:45.250
  • F15 Patricia
    01:45.400
  • Nickel Arrow 1200
    01:45.500
  • NV820
    01:45.530
  • Model X15
    01:45.790
  • Spina
    01:46.340
  • Prima 1
    01:47.570
  • Forvio
    01:49.910
  • LMPC
    01:50.110
  • Galadante
    01:50.710
  • Novotek
    01:54.060


The results of the race will be published in around an hour!
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:51 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race today! + qualifying times]

26 out of 35 when it comes to times... Better than last time when the car was 30th.
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:15 am

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And here the results, some suprises there! :o

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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:20 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

Well first is no surprise but my team is upside down regarding first race :D
nice seeing qualy results!
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:57 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

I MUST KNOW, how Zeus is doing so much better, even if the laptimes show Sepang is at approximately the same pace.

Thanks for the race Sillyworld, you're awesome.
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:08 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

Well that's huge! P4 for the NV810. We're happy to see the car performing against very powerful entries.
The NV820 has probably badly been built then. We'll need to go back on the board to check our weaknesses.

Well done to the podium finishers!
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:40 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

squidhead wrote:I MUST KNOW, how Zeus is doing so much better, even if the laptimes show Sepang is at approximately the same pace.

Thanks for the race Sillyworld, you're awesome.


He probably has a huge lot of drivability while still having a very powerful car.
I think my AP1 entry is very similar in terms of drivability compared to him, however he has an additional 200HP at disposal.

Thank you loads Sillyworld. Your work is impressive.
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:14 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

iRaptor wrote:
squidhead wrote:I MUST KNOW, how Zeus is doing so much better, even if the laptimes show Sepang is at approximately the same pace.


He probably has a huge lot of drivability while still having a very powerful car.
I think my AP1 entry is very similar in terms of drivability compared to him, however he has an additional 200HP at disposal.


That and the fact that AGTE cars have 90 liters fuel tanks, which makes them slower when they're filled, but can run a long distance between pit stops. I should have baned DI and VVT for the AGTE class :roll: these cars are powerful, have a high top speed and almost the same fuel economy as the AP1 Class cars.
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Post Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:17 am

Re: AMWEC '15 [2nd Race results]

Good question Squidhead... I knew my extra weight would be a slight disadvantage on a tighter track, and we're both using mediums.

I think my pit strategy helps, even more so with short races. I would only have required one, maximum two pit stops for fuel and maybe two or three stops for tyres. With that definitely the time gained by running the tank empty would definitely give me a bit extra over the extra pit stop. Also my car is very reliable so my pit stops are a little quicker. And the car is quite tame so I shouldn't get delayed by shunts and bumps much either.

It probably all adds up. It would be worth doing a direct comparison between the two!

EDIT: actually sillyworld has a point. I chose AGTE not just because it makes more sense for my company story, but also as it had the most liberal set of regulations. The budget of an extra 10 grand, given everything else, really only makes what... 0.5% difference tops :P
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