AVUS Grosser Preis von Berlin (1990) [FINISHED]

[AirJordan]

I'm in

EDIT: Why no race intakes and exhausts?

I dunno, wasn't this sort of the standard we use here, for Production ready cars?

ohhhh ok, I didn't know that we are talking production cars... so lights, handles, etc. are a must?

[BurningBridges]

no but you can. Is this ok?

I only require reliability >50, otherwise I will have to roll a dice according to the chances to finish.

[AirJordan]

I have no problem with my car having just an intake grill

EDIT: I made and tune a car according to rules that could be competitive and I can assure you that there is nothing remotely production with this car I am not sure that banning race stuff makes any sense if your only other limitation is cost

either way, if rules are here to stay, I have a car for the job (will try later with turbos also but I'm not that good with them)

[koolkei]

how the hell did you get 400km/h+ on such a small engines? and why is that on an old build?

[strop]

clarification: you can't get 400km/h on a small engine, that's what makes this a bit fun.

No race intakes and exhausts is still a standard we used here for the laptime leaderboards, though they have otherwise changed quite a bit.

[BurningBridges]

The track and screenshots are from 03/2015 that's normal.
The screenshots were also taken with a 1000hp turbo, I would be surprised if anyone get even near 400km/h.

[BurningBridges]

I have no problem with my car having just an intake grill

EDIT: I made and tune a car according to rules that could be competitive and I can assure you that there is nothing remotely production with this car I am not sure that banning race stuff makes any sense if your only other limitation is cost

either way, if rules are here to stay, I have a car for the job (will try later with turbos also but I'm not that good with them)

Seems I got a bitout of touch with developments.
I think is not a big deal and cars get 10% less power.
If the race takes place and there could be other ones, I will keep this in mind.

[BurningBridges]

There is a problem. How is the total reliability calculated?
It seems it's possible to build cars with 0 reliability for the engine, and still have the required reliability
But I want cars to have 50 reliability for the engine and car.

I everyone agrees I will change the rules that both > 50
engines with 0 reliability makes no sense imo

[AirJordan]

aaaaaand here goes my half a second... oh well

[BurningBridges]

I dont want to spoil the comp with rule changes. Was that a bad idea?

I have no submissions, so just tell me what to do. We can have a lower reliability but the cars must be able to finish a certain number of laps.

A race would have 306 km, average reliability = 0.3 * 1000 km = 50% chance to fail

[BurningBridges]

I hope it was also clear how I specified the cost limit. I mean the Total Expense per car, for a Tiny run. It can be found under Detail stats.

There is also total cost under "Overview", but I dont know what that reflects.

[BurningBridges]

Ok, I have the first entrant, thanks to Awildgermanappears!

The following detail leaked: his car is admiral blue!

Entries will be run in reverse order.

[AirJordan]

I dont want to spoil the comp with rule changes. Was that a bad idea?

I have no submissions, so just tell me what to do. We can have a lower reliability but the cars must be able to finish a certain number of laps.

A race would have 306 km, average reliability = 0.3 * 1000 km = 50% chance to fail

If your avrage reliability is 0 than you have 50% chance to fail? And the same just for the engine? I am sorry for so many same questions

[BurningBridges]

Good question ..

Average 50 means imo 50,000 mean kilometers to failure

chance to fail is = 1 - e ^ -(T/MTBF) (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_Time ... n_Failures)

T is 0,3 (race length = 300km)
if MTBF is 50, the resulting chance to fail is 0.01 = 1%
if MTBF is 0.3 it is actually 62%, not 50%

I think 1% is actually a good value, no one would expect his car to fail.

[DoctorNarfy]

There seems to be no limit on Fuel Octane, Or Safety for that matter. Are either of these concerns?