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Post Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:44 am

Re: The Gren Hell Hot Hatches contest [Taking entries]

Ok, i have modded the first message. No restrictions on quality sliders. Strop, you can rework a bit your car with the changes and send me again.
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Post Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:57 am

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Cheers, I'll do just that!
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:29 am

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I've dropped some limitations, come on guys, it's easier now.
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:17 am

Re: The Gren Hell Hot Hatches contest [Taking entries]

If this misfires, it's because the initial rules looked too daunting (and there are a lot of criteria!). Also, perhaps because a similar hatch comparison is being run in the Car Reviewing thread.

IMO if there is no more response (which would be a shame), it wouldn't be wrong to close this thread and reincarnate it anew, with the adjusted rules. I would suggest a slightly different scoring system however: how about one in which your car has a base score but the score is multiplied by how much it exceeds the base requirement of a certain criteria? This way, if you don't hit the criteria, you won't fail automatically, only your overall score will take a hit, so you can have the freedom to choose whether to make a balanced vehicle or whether to really try to improve on a few things.

e.g. Aim for a sportiness of 30 (I would suggest dropping this from 40, for sure.) If the car gets a sportiness of 30, then multiply the overall score by 1. If it's a sportiness of 45, then 1.5 etc. This is a tiny bit similar to the way the Automation scenario scoring system works.
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:58 am

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Here is my entry, the pocket rocket! and its fast...
fast enough for the second number to be a single digit.
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:32 am

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strop wrote:If this misfires, it's because the initial rules looked too daunting (and there are a lot of criteria!). Also, perhaps because a similar hatch comparison is being run in the Car Reviewing thread.

IMO if there is no more response (which would be a shame), it wouldn't be wrong to close this thread and reincarnate it anew, with the adjusted rules. I would suggest a slightly different scoring system however: how about one in which your car has a base score but the score is multiplied by how much it exceeds the base requirement of a certain criteria? This way, if you don't hit the criteria, you won't fail automatically, only your overall score will take a hit, so you can have the freedom to choose whether to make a balanced vehicle or whether to really try to improve on a few things.

e.g. Aim for a sportiness of 30 (I would suggest dropping this from 40, for sure.) If the car gets a sportiness of 30, then multiply the overall score by 1. If it's a sportiness of 45, then 1.5 etc. This is a tiny bit similar to the way the Automation scenario scoring system works.


Yes... i though before that my points system couldn't be balanced. For example we can catch the limits like the 100% and then catch the percent of improve to take points. For example, for the sportiness limit of 40 if you have 44, it's an 10% of improvement, 10 points... what do you think? I'm doing in a excel chart and is so easy to do entering the points and time.

Thanks for your car Luilakkie (bloody hell it's really fast hehe), is interesting how different are our cars technically hehe. In a few minutes i will put photos and specs in first page.

Scoring system modified using this percent method.
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:11 pm

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Yep give big points for extra sportiness, it's one of the few things I got easily ;) .

Well I probably won't be winning this, but I did pass all of the criteria. I also managed to mount an unreasonably large engine into my hatch haha, 2.7L of V8 goodness :D .
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:17 pm

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CheftonUTD wrote:Yep give big points for extra sportiness, it's one of the few things I got easily ;) .

Well I probably won't be winning this, but I did pass all of the criteria. I also managed to mount an unreasonably large engine into my hatch haha, 2.7L of V8 goodness :D .


Well sure you have a lot of prestige :mrgreen:
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Post Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:22 pm

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Oh! I see you changed the maximum costs... Hm nah, I'll keep the car as is! No point revising over and over again, I'll just be able to charge a bit less per unit ;)

EDIT: arrrrgh am so conflicted! check your PMs ViruTypeR!

EDIT2: Right. Here we go again! An extra 500 bucks and delimited quality sliders brings out the lairy, the funny, and the quirky. Get prepared for an even more Enigmatic GTi, complete with... ricey Akrapovic fart cannon, unnecessary bypass valves (for when you want to really piss off the neighbors... FOR THE SPORTINESS!!!), pretentious downforce aero kit (because you don't really want to be able to service your car without spending an hour on the rack first), even more tuned engine (a whole 7hp gain!!!), superfluous launch control (which makes this thing go slower around the track for some funny reason...) You get the idea. It's a whole 270hp of flaming hot hatch and fun without the actual speed!
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:48 pm

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I have entered something special for this competition...

Introducing the 2015 Bogliq Nostalgique R/T!!! 8-) :o 8-) :o 8-)

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Feast your eyes on this sweet tribute to the classical hatches of yore while taking due care and attention to not bark a shin on it's ruler-ified body!
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Post Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:43 pm

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Lancia die-hards around the world rejoice!

p.s. somebody ought to make another GTi themed race cup on the back of this market competition.
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2015 2:41 am

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HighOctaneLove wrote:I have entered something special for this competition...

Introducing the 2015 Bogliq Nostalgique R/T!!! 8-) :o 8-) :o 8-)

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Feast your eyes on this sweet tribute to the classical hatches of yore while taking due care and attention to not bark a shin on it's ruler-ified body!


Man sorry for you, but your car is very penalized because of the utility, very tiny space on interior and boot (the RWD and longitudinal engine doesn't help)... your score is very low for that and some other point like emissions (with less RPM sure you get more realiability and lower emissions)

In a moment i will upload some interesting stats like power, weight, accelerations...
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:07 am

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Post Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:11 am

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Click the aero tab before testing the cars! It's a bug, and you're probably getting the wrong values for the performance values as a result!

(My car's top speed should be 263.5km/h, everything else however is about the same. The game needs to be reminded of the aero slider values, otherwise it assumes maximum possible cooling which generally means more drag. If you're still having trouble, I do have a replacement version with the adjusted aero, but it doesn't look as good :P ).

In other news, this will be one of those unique experiences in which my car is probably the slowest of the lot :lol:
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Post Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:20 am

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strop wrote:Click the aero tab before testing the cars! It's a bug, and you're probably getting the wrong values for the performance values as a result!

(My car's top speed should be 263.5km/h, everything else however is about the same).

In other news, this will be one of those unique experiences in which my car is probably the slowest of the lot :lol:


Yes i know that, and do it... but the result are a bit different sometimes... a bit puzzling. Anyway, the scoring is not affected, because the car's tameness, sportiness, etc... some of them goes a bit up and others a bit down, mantaining the balance.

When we have more entries, i'll redo those graphs again don't worry hehe.
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