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Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 9:54 am**

This is a challenge for an all around STREET LEGAL NON EXHORBITANT PRICED SPORTSCAR (Aka not too fancy materials and parts.. you can go wild with the rest) you must build a car that meets the requirtements and then race it in Green Hell!

Engine restrictions
Year: 2014 or earlier
Super unleaded fuel
Man Hours: less than 100
Total price: less than 1500
MTBF: 60.000 Kms
Economy: 20% or more
Must be mass produceable
Find the sweetspot. the engine that has the right amount of power, weight and life for the chassis you are going to use

Body restrictions:
year: 2014 or earlier
No quiality sliders
NO CARBON FIBER on any part of the car: everything else goes
Sport compound tires maximum.
at least standard safety.
Car must have headlights, handles, tailights and turn signals.
Maximum downforce: 100kgs

post a screenshot of your car and its ring tim along with the numbers to make sure its legal

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Sportscars

-2014 Dragotec Prometheus prototype ring-spec 7:45.14
-Grandpa: 7:45.87
-Centauri Ultimo 8:08:22
-Centauri Knight GTR 8:43:44

Hatchbacks
iCuteRR 7:45.76
Swift R-Lite 7:59.11
UMMobile: 8:19.21
-Golimar Hermes Omega 8:35.70
-2014 Pampero RS250 8:35.05
-2008 Kobalt SS HO 8:38.18

Sedans

Fmu Cacique Ombohiu'y 8:05:42

MadMobiles

ME Isidis : 7:36.31 *
Intertceptor T/S 7:39.00
Ultima Crusader 7:42.85 *

The asterisk means that at least one aspect of the car or engine isnt within the limitations given

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 10:18 am**

Less than 1500? Blah, that nearly eliminates any turbo powered car.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 10:24 am**

Dragawn wrote:Less than 1500? Blah, that nearly eliminates any turbo powered car.

But you dont hyave displacement limiations or any other thing. I was able to make a 6 cil turbo screamer with 550 hp

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:48 am**

May I suggest a rule of no wings if it's going to be based on just pictures of a car instead of a downforce limit?

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 11:49 am**

OCAdam wrote:May I suggest a rule of no wings if it's going to be based on just pictures of a car instead of a downforce limit?

I'd like to to have SOME downforce but I dont want the evil downforce glitch

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 12:39 pm**

Manche wrote:
OCAdam wrote:May I suggest a rule of no wings if it's going to be based on just pictures of a car instead of a downforce limit?

I'd like to to have SOME downforce but I dont want the evil downforce glitch

I'm thinking 200 kgs is a bit much for a street sports car. I'd limit it to 100 or 110...something closer to that range at least. Most of the fastest cars in the world are less than 100kg total downforce.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 12:53 pm**

07CobaltGirl wrote:
Manche wrote:
OCAdam wrote:May I suggest a rule of no wings if it's going to be based on just pictures of a car instead of a downforce limit?

I'd like to to have SOME downforce but I dont want the evil downforce glitch

I'm thinking 200 kgs is a bit much for a street sports car. I'd limit it to 100 or 110...something closer to that range at least. Most of the fastest cars in the world are less than 100kg total downforce.

you have a point there.. I will cut down downforce limits in half

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 3:50 pm**

Here is a refined version of my Centauri Knight, this GTR trim managed a 8 minutes 43.44 seconds in 1992 despite it's aging platform, low tech pushrod engine and full premium interior options, plus it still gets 21 mpg.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 4:12 pm**

nialloftara wrote:Here is a refined version of my Centauri Knight, this GTR trim managed a 8 minutes 43.44 seconds in 1992 despite it's aging platform, low tech pushrod engine and full premium interior options, plus it still gets 21 mpg.

You can try a stripped down version of that thing

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 4:32 pm**

I'll strip it down and coax a few more hp out of it, maybe get rid of the solid axle, once someone else posts a better time

Till then my comfortable and quiet semi luxury car is leading

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 6:27 pm**

2008 Kobalt SS HO (semi-reproduction of Chevrolet Cobalt SS TC Stage3+, tuned for Super Unleaded fuel) Link to Original
2.0L (1998cc) Aluminum DOHC Turbo I4, 69448km MTBF, 27mpg
Monocoque Galvanized Steel Chassis, Steel Panels,
McPherson Strut Front, Torsion Beam Rear
2-Piston Disc Brakes (310mm FR, 290mm RR), 2.59m (101.9") Wheelbase, 225/35R18, FF

Green Hell Track Time 8:18.08

People scoff at the Chevy Cobalt SS as a non-contender, but it is actually pretty healthy if you check out the link above.

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 7:02 pm**

I feel compelled to pul up my weapon..... My 2014 Bagual-R-Pegaso which is a standard Bagual with a 8.1 V8 crammed at the front and driviung the 4 wheels and not giving a single fuck about economy

Posted: **Fri May 16, 2014 10:27 pm**

At first I was like "how on earth do you get an 8.1L engine out in less than 100 man hours for less than $1500???" Then I gave it a shot.

I may or may not submit a ridiculously tuned dragstrip monster that wallows its way around the track, threatening to spit you off into the barriers at every corner. Hint: it'll have well over 1000hp lolololol.

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 2:10 am**

What about we put a minimum of 20% economy before these guys turn it into a racecar competition?

Also, I hate you guys so much for the 1500 limit, but I've begun to adapt my Prometheus prototype for this challenge, it already had an aluminium chassis and polymer shell, so why the hell not.
Stripping down all excess weight and increasing cooling, this feels like a proper manufacturer Ring showdown

Edit: Well here it is, with a /very/ cheaped down DI and iron block I managed to get the i630TDS36 to ring spec with a +-100hp gain.

2014 Dragotec Prometheus prototype ring-spec
3.6L iron DOHC 30V turbo
aluminium chassis, polymer shell
Double wishbones all around
4 pots, 355mm front, 350mm back

Green hell time: 7:41:69

Posted: **Sat May 17, 2014 5:21 am**

Dragawn wrote:What about we put a minimum of 20% economy before these guys turn it into a racecar competition?

Agreed. I thought the intro suggested street legal cars. I kept with the spirit, but I could easily shave off half a ton from my street car and make it full race ready.

I could have also entered something based on my "GT TypeR" ZX1 Turbo, but it isn't really a "street car", but more a "production race car". Didn't seem fair or in the spriit of:

Manche wrote:This is a challenge for an all around STREET LEGAL NON EXHORBITANT PRICED SPORTSCAR (Aka not too fancy materials and parts.. you can go wild with the rest) you must build a car that meets the requirtements and then race it in Green Hell!

I don't think full-blown race setups fit this criteria. 20% efficiency rule seems fair, as it is generally considered a "streetable motor" characteristic, even for large V8 motors. Since there are no year restrictions, and relatively few engine restrictions, 2000+ and DI should make this readily achievable. And to be honest, I don't know about Europe or other parts of the world, but 98 octane fuel is pretty hard to find where I live! I know it varies around the US, but here in the Southeast, you get 89, 91, and 93 unless you go to one of the few places that does sell higher (at ridiculous costs). They do have e85 fairly readily available, but hardly "on every corner" still! FYI, my engine made about 300hp on 95....

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