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Post Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

In the traditional Centauri low tech method, here is a competitor for the sports car class. coming in at 7:46.65 using a pushrod v8, it's a bit behind the Prometheus but with higher standard features. Ignore the uninspired name I saved it as, please welcome the "Centauri Juggernaut"
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Post Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:17 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Pushrod :shock: Surely Centauri is the master of this technology with results like that!

The asterisk next to my madmobile was bothering me, so I decided I'd release a Ringmasters Spec version of the Crusader. As promised, it makes about 950hp instead of that magical 1000, but the engine efficiency is now exactly 20.00%, and everything else pretty much remains the same in the engine (if I must, I'll add a screenshot). At the same time, I've stripped down the interior, replaced the Bluetooth and all that higgeldypiggeldy with just the most basic of consoles, and the rest of the weight went into a nice rollcage. The mileage improves to a very healthy (lol) 17l/100km (not unlike the fuel consumption of an Aventador, for example), and took the opportunity to retweak the suspension, so that the overall package goes around the 'ring just as quickly as the original 1000hp superbarge:

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Therefore this car is (for now) the fastest car around the 'ring that complies with all the rules of this leaderboard :P
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Post Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:12 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

A few tweaks puts the lightened Juggernut S right on strop's heels!
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Post Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:28 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Hate to double post so soon but there's no replacement for displacement, lowered the redline and stroked the engine out another half liter to 10.6, dropping this new motor into the juggernaut S gives us a new leader!
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Post Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:53 am

Re: Ringmasters league

someone is using big pushrod engines as their weapon.. nice.. I thought I was going to be the only one
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Post Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:02 am

Re: Ringmasters league

Very nice, I'll have to see and raise now! Perhaps its time to port the engine to a lighter frame with awd... Then you'll see what team GG is capable of muahahahaha :lol:
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Post Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:14 am

Re: Ringmasters league

As a fun note there's only about 70 kilos between my engine weight and my platform weight :)
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Post Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:38 am

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LOL the real meaning of more engine than car :P
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:27 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Here its my cars time on green hell:

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And the engine:

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Let me know if you need anymore data :)

The car on the screenshots isnt named yet, but its the UMM Alter SV and its a street car.
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:23 pm

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Leaderboard update soon
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Post Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Sorry for the wait guys, I had a couple of submissions I was preparing to buff up the leaderboard, based on some rather liberal interpretations of existing cars. I suspect there'll be no prizes guessing which cars I've based them on:

First up, the Interceptor. The Crusader-E engine (the 1000hp beast which took a bit of a retune to get to 20% economy, so now it only puts out 950hp) was transplanted from the nostalgia madmobile, and placed in an aluminium frame polymer shell which essentially became an AWD version of America's favourite plastic car :P

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Like the engine, it's big and heavy, which comes as no surprise as this is all about muscle. But like the modern iterations of muscle, they all seem to be aiming to straddle this weird territory between sporty and accessible... with a whole range of track versions that aim to make them that bit more sporty than accessible, if the Z/28 is anything to go by (also what, 305mm wide front wheels? Really???)

So that's what I built here: a track spec moderately priced modern muscle car that goes like stink and nevermind the rubber, only yes there's the full complement of driving aids so your average office worker with a mid-life crisis can hustle this around the track without accidentally turning into a 1700kg ballistic missle. As evidence of this, you'll note that it is more tame than sporty, though with both values into the 60s, it's both fast AND not difficult to drive:

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Sorry for the ugly rear... the lips aren't exactly supposed to be used like wings and emulating the rear on the Z06, which was what I was aiming for, proved to be difficult.

Entertainment was left at basic, and safety is set to premium 00s. The downside of all this performance and weight is that even with an efficiency of exactly 20%, the car's mileage is still horrendous. Anyway, I did promise that I'd make a tilt at the top of the leaderboard (or did I...) so, here it is:

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Finally realising what the values in the suspension tuning actually corresponded to, I set the suspension to something approaching what it'd be in real life on a 1700kg track-oriented car: rather firm. As a result, while the balance is pretty good, I know for a fact that within the bounds of the simulation there's a spare second, but it requires having the front sway bars set to about 1600 which just doesn't seem right... so we'll just stick with a time of 4:39.35.
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Post Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:13 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Now for the other thing I was working on, something that would accompany Dragawn's 6 cylinder sports cars on the leaderboard. I've elected to submit something slower and closer to the original model it was based on, as opposed to the maximum tune, for reasons I'll explain later.

That said, here's the Super GT:

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Again, what this car is based on should be easy... the tail light array is a dead giveaway. Also the fact I had to add vents to make the rear look like it had a widebody kit strapped on, as the original Supra has a tapered rear that sits over a fat base. As you can see, the stats suggest this car is basically an inexpensive Japanese sports car... with perhaps a bit too much boost to be entirely stock.

Sadly there's no V6 available yet, so I decided we'll just have to use an i6, but it'll be turbo, and 3000cc, similar to (one of the versions of) the original.

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Since I set the tech year to 2014, we can call this a reinterpretation, besides, this way I'm able to put on a high flow 3 way cat converter that allows for a fantastic emissions rating. The turbo is also somewhat larger and more boosty than you'd find on the original stock car.

On an AHS steel frame with polymer skin, the overall result is a decently sporty car that would seem fun, if a little tweaky, to take around the track:

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(time will be posted in the continuation next post)
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Post Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:17 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

Here's the time, which is not bad for a RWD moderately tuned Japanese sports car:

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By way of experimentation, I did take a leaf out of Dragawn's book and tweaked the engine to become a 3.6L turbo i6 with super cheap DI that put out 750hp, and coupled it to a 7 speed AWD, to put out a car that did the 'ring in 7:44.52... but since Dragawn did it first (and better), and all this would be doing is essentially copying it, I've decided not to submit it as it doesn't seem in the spirit of this leaderboard.
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Post Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:27 pm

Re: Ringmasters league

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_JZ_engine#2JZ-GTE

This is a 3 liter engine, so I don't know what you are talking about. The engine you have created is the way most tuned Supras have them, not double but singel turbo.
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Post Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:38 pm

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It took me reading your post three times to figure out what the issue was. At first I thought you were talking about the turbo, but that's clearly not it, it's the fact that as I originally thought, the 2JZ is a 3 liter engine.

So I don't know why I got confused... I must have misread the very same Wikipedia article you linked to when I was going back to check things (because as I mentioned, I'm no expert on Supra engines).

...I'm just going to edit my previous post in an attempt to pretend that this confusion never happened :P
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