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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:59 am

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Tell me what do you think! :)
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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:03 am

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This "Lambda" car... is it a sports wagon or luxury?
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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:23 am

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Microwave wrote:This "Lambda" car... is it a sports wagon or luxury?


I'm afraid that it's luxury superwagon.
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Post Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:39 am

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Interesting... ;)
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:42 am

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Anyone's interested in this company anymore? I have some cars to be shown off that I made when this thread was inactive. Someone wants to see them? :S
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:15 am

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Why not? May as well post them if you've already made em.
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:22 am

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Microwave wrote:Why not? May as well post them if you've already made em.


Well, I'll post them so. But wait for pictures - I need to take 'em all.
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:01 am

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I see your company like Maserati - poor value, but this makes it a bit exclusive. The main reason is your cars are priced high which I think you should keep doing. It makes it different to all the other manufacturers here who race to the bottom eg "better performance than a Porsche but much cheaper!" <- which makes the company a value oriented manufacturer, not a luxury one.
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:08 am

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utopian201 wrote:I see your company like Maserati - poor value, but this makes it a bit exclusive. The main reason is your cars are priced high which I think you should keep doing. It makes it different to all the other manufacturers here who race to the bottom eg "better performance than a Porsche but much cheaper!" <- which makes the company a value oriented manufacturer, not a luxury one.


Well... Poor value... okay.
Anyway; I try to make my cars exclusive, and luxury, yuno, but I don't literally f**k out quality sliders on every car. ;)
Plus I think about the prices... For me they're fine, because hey, if you want cheap Airborne Automotive car, cheapest one (as for 2015/2016 MYs) costs about 17k. Most expensive one (excluding the Cerberus, which is limited to 118 units, 121 with concept and 2 prototypes never released to public - 800-900k for production one, where concept was planned to cost in production form about 1 million $) costs about 263k (and it's Lambda, hue hue!). Plus, about performance advertisements - I write quotes like "Better than Porsche!" if it's close to be true.

Anyway, thanks for your opinion utopian... May I ask how's magazine going? xD

I guess I'll post some new cars (mainly from company's history for now) today or tomorrow - depends, because I got ill and headaches are often. :cry:
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:50 am

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Well, when I meant poor value, I mean you have high margins ie large ratio between production cost and msrp which for me marks the difference between a Hyundai with leather seats and an Audi with leather seats.
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:09 am

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utopian201 wrote:Well, when I meant poor value, I mean you have high margins ie large ratio between production cost and msrp which for me marks the difference between a Hyundai with leather seats and an Audi with leather seats.


Oh... Okay, thanks for explanation. Sorry, my english is not perfect and I could mismatch something. :P
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:47 am

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Let the Maserati-like company roll some cars! :)

1982 Airborne Cossarini
The year is 1969, when Cherry from 1961 gets ceased along with Beta. Unlike the second car, which got a successor (Beta Supercoupe is a successor to Beta, if you don't know), Cherry was forgotten. After oil crisis, which made the company to close for several months, our engineers back in time worked on various small sports car projects since 1975 to fit the gap after Cherry. In 1980, one 18-year-old car designer who just finished his school, Alberto Juan Cossarini came to Airborne Automotive for practicing from Latin America. In early 1982, when most experienced engineers in our company talked about little sports car project, Cossarini literally broke into conversation with words "Eyy, Amigos, I have great car design project!". Of course, previous CEO (current in 80s) told Cossarini to literally shut the fuck up, but after the conversation he looked at the project... He liked it that much that he said sorry to Cossarini and recruited him as second lead designer of Airborne Automotive. Cossarini himself accepted the proposition to step up in company hierarchy and started to do technical design of his car, which he named Cossarini ESC1. ESC was for Experimental Sports Car. When the project was finished in March 1982, due to lack of time he put Xy GTi's engine into the car and slightly tuned it up to reach 135 HP. Airborne Cossarini, as it got renamed later due to marketing reasons made huge success on it's presentation in Geneva in the year 1983. People loved it for it's possibility to cheap repairs, hence Cossarini got the same engine as Xy GT/GTi, design that was ahead of the company for at least ten years and respectable performance. Cossarini (as a car) could reach 196 km/h of top speed and it needed 9.5 seconds to reach 100 km/h. It was still responsive due to simple front suspension system (McPherson struts) and low weight, it is 883 kg. Sadly enough, reviewers criticized Cossarini in 1984 and 1985 like bunch of fucking hypocrites when they finally realized that engine is mid-placed, it's too futuristic look and quite high price for Cherry successor, as Cossarini was promoted. Cossarini made quite big success when it came to cult, but not big success when it came to sales, mainly because of it's looks which looked more like 90s than 80s and mid engine placement. It was also quite expensive, as written above. As for 1983 it costed 16.570 $. It was replaced in 1991 with new Airborne Cherry.

And by the way - if you will ask what A.J. Cossarini does today, I come with an answer: He's now a company businessman and leads designers team as a 53 year old, sometimes angry man. Trust me, he named me few times from pendejos and putas when I said to him that I will launch Cerberus into limited run ;)

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1976 Airborne Hades
Well, this is the car that founder died in. The year was 1976 and new hypercar prototype developed to compete with Lamborghini Countach was being tested. When we were testing the Hades (fully functioning one) prototype on Silverstone, it had an problem that went terrible in consequences: one cable from engine just broke and got into exhaust system, and this cable just got into forces of grip and started to burn. Too bad it was too close to fuel tank; the fire reacted with this fuel tank and exhaust smoke, the car exploded at speed of 260 km/h and turned into flying fireball with founder inside. At the end, this fireball finished it's destruction path on one of borders. The car was literally in parts, cockpit was divided into three parts. When firemen controlled the fire and put it out, people took out founder's body, which got splitted into six parts of melted meat outside of the car. There were two Hades prototypes - fully functional one, with complete engine was destroyed, second was just a showcar with Worker's 43 HP engine just to move itself. In 2009 I decided to rebuild original Hades compatible with historical documentary, which got finished in 2013. The car can reach 277 km/h and needs 5.5 seconds to reach 100 km/h. Hades is powered by turbocharged 2,4 l V8 engine with mechanical injection that pumps out 439 HP at 6600 RPM, and the redline is placed on 7200 RPM. The car itself is very hard to control, even with safety systems equipped. Anyway, Hades is one of cars that if they have one malfunction, this malfunction can be deadly...

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1955-1960 Airborne Worker
Hmm, it's the car that launched Airborne Automotive into the zone of small city commuters. Worker itself was designed at the dawn of 1949, with first engines made in 1950, but the car was finally finished and launched into production in 1955 as a 2-door and 4-door sedan. Both had the same engine, which was 42 HP 1,0 litre inline 4. Both cars also had the same weight - 657 kilos. In fact, they only differed in seats and doors amount. The price only was the difference, but I'll list all prices below. Worker 2 could reach 115 km/h and needed 22.5 seconds to reach 100 km/h, Worker 4 had the same parameters.

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In 1956 Airborne Motor Company introduced Worker Convertible, later renamed Speedster for marketing purposes. It had engine that was tweaked to reach 48 HP (sportish Worker? Why not kurwa!), but was also heavier with weight of 688 kg. Despite this it was faster - 121 km/h of top speed and 21.3 seconds to 100 km/h. Plus it came with soft top that you could close :D

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Year 1957 brought a pickup variant. It can be called one of few utes we produced actually. Except for ability to carry cargo at the back and introducing new base color for Workers - Polish Red, it featured the same engine as 2 and 4 door versions. In comparison to them, due to worse aerodynamics, pickup could reach 114 km/h and needed 23.4 seconds to reach 100 km/h.

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1958 was the year of introducing wagon versions of Worker - the first of them was the panel van! This utility model was designed to transport light stuff, it was like Ford Transit Connect today. From performance side, it had the same parameters as Worker Ute/Pickup - 114 km/h top speed, 42 HP, but had better 0-100 acceleration - 23 seconds. Along with panel van there was a 3 door version introduced, and it was surprisingly faster to 100 km/h even than basic sedans! Needed only 22.2 seconds, made it second quickest Worker in the offer, just behind Speedster. 3 door variant was an option for, example, couples who wanted a car that they could sleep in on long tours. In 1958 also there was a second basic color introduced for all Workers, Marrakech Desert Sand. Panel van weighted 660 kg, and 3-door variant was only 3 kilos heavier.

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At early 1960 Airborne Motor Company pushed last variant of Worker into production, 5-door one. Basicly it was just three-door one with additional pair of doors and seats inside, making it perfect family car for cheap. All Workers got ceased in 1963 when they just got old and had a direct successor in the cars of Xy and Persephone.

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Prices of Worker, according to MY of launch:
1955 2d - 892 $
1955 4d - 908 $
1956 Speedster - 959 $
1957 Pickup/Ute - 933 $
1958 Panel van - 969 $
1958 3d - 971 $
1960 5d - 1.020 $

Last car coming tomorrow. Now I'm too ill...
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:23 pm

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I like the front on the Hades. Simple, but manages to get it's point across.
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Post Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:36 pm

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And the final car from this "set" :P

1971 Airborne Imperator
As you may notice, the Rome from 1967 was first attempt of our company to build a supercar on highest level. Despite having low power output it could keep with Lamborghini Miura, it's main rival. It was hand-built until 1969 in limited run of 476 units (find a reference :D ). In 1970, when Beta Supercoupe was presented as a manifest for fastest muscle car in production, CEO also said about massive-produced supercar plans. Those "plans" were finished and presented in 1971 in form of Airborne Imperator. This beast was pointed to compete with Lamborghini Miura P400SV and upcoming Countach and could easily leave De Tomaso Pantera in the dust. Imperator was planned as a most hardcore supercar ever built by Airborne Motor Company and it's quite true for it's times. It had V8 5,7 litre crossplane engine that generated 520 HP. For comparison, Miura SV generated 390 HP. That just let the car reach insane numbers: 6.2 seconds to 100 km/h, 301 km/h top speed (297 when lights were on). The car was also pretty light with weight of 1332 kilos. You may notice that car got 0.0 points in drivability - that's not true, of course, is pretty hard to control, but you can master it. Just like mentioned Miura or several muscle cars. In fact, Hades is the successor for Imperator - but first production car that succeeded the Imperator in terms of being innovative was Airborne Evoluzione from 20 years later.

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As always, gib opinions! :D
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Post Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:31 am

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Some news about upcoming cars:
- Alpha is now an entry-level sedan, second generation of this model is coming. Current Alpha is produced from 2014 and will be produced to 2016 and in the last year it will be produced with new one.
- Phobos, our muscle car to compete with Ford Mustang, Chevy Camaro and Dodge Challenger is finally ready.
- Maybe some return to the Arthemis name for new huge stricte off-roader, this time with more luxury?
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