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Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:43 am
by boyercam
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Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:43 am
by boyercam
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Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:18 am
by boyercam
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Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 5:34 am
by TheTom
Sorry, but... Please revise this engine. I didn't even know that it's possible to get such low hp from a 2 litre. The MTBF is bad, so is fuel economy, responsiveness and especially emissions for 2014. You can do much better than that :) Just put a little effort into it.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:24 am
by boyercam
Yes it is rather bad, first starts though!

I'll re-do it soon, following the guides that have been put together. Not really german engineering at the moment.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:30 am
by Kubboz
Well, I look at the MTBF, and I can believe the "breaking distance" is 37 meters.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 7:34 am
by Frankschtaldt
TheTom wrote:Sorry, but... Please revise this engine. I didn't even know that it's possible to get such low hp from a 2 litre. The MTBF is bad, so is fuel economy, responsiveness and especially emissions for 2014. You can do much better than that :) Just put a little effort into it.


I believe the issue is that it's 94.5 RON but running on standard unleaded.
If you change it to premium unleaded or turn down the compression ratio until its current RON is less than 91 I think you'll find vast improvements! =)

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:15 am
by boyercam
Thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try!

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:20 am
by boyercam
Here we are:
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Much better, apart from responsiveness

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:25 am
by nialloftara
You've moved into the Volkswagen 2.slow range now, :P Keep on tuning the motor, that was a good first improvement but you should be able to get about 130-140hp on regular gas out of a 2.0 without sacrificing much life or costs.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:26 am
by RobtheFiend
Very low power in this engine, a Volvo B20 from the 60's has this kind of power. And that is a 8 valve pushrod design.
My Opel has 100 hp out of a 1.6 16 valve.

What setting do you have for the cam? And comp ratio? I see that the engine only require 77 kJ/s, have never seen that low number from that size engine.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:06 am
by boyercam
I've uploaded the engine file (since been deleted) if you want to have a go at tweaking it, otherwise I'll start from scratch following the Engine Designer guide

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 7:22 am
by nialloftara
I'm on mobile right now and can't edit but try switching to mpfi should improve everything, if you want to keep the costs down still go to single over head cam 16 valve.

Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:01 am
by boyercam
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Re: Wosa - Driving Innovation since 2013

PostPosted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:40 am
by Frankschtaldt
I'm getting ready for work so I don't have a lot of time but I have made two tunes for you:

In both of them I made your fuel/air mix a lot richer which allowed me to significantly increase compression ratio and get a lot more power and an improved efficiency.
I also increased your rev limit as you were topping out before peak power was achieved.