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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:53 am

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We chose RWD for a few reasons:
1. AWD, at least in real life, reduces fuel economy. By using all wheels for power all the time, it consumes more fuel. I'm sure you know this, but I want to sounds smart.
2. As strop said, RWD gives a distinctive flare and excitement. It can still compete in the mpv/minivan class, but makes it a bit more fun.


Also, expect more engine variations. We will be pulling in support from our friends at Smolensk to freshen up the Mark.

PS: my engines have been acting a little buggy as of recent. I plan on rotating many out of the lineup and introduce many new ones in models soon.

I'm more than thrilled that you have taken interest in the car. While my body designs are normally well accepted (and I hope you all like this design), the stats are normally not. I'm pleased to see some acceptance, if not at least controversy.
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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:08 am

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@TheTom
Really? I made AWD cars with this body shell, and with decently sized engines at that. Also I'll have you know that most profitable car in CTC #2 was FWD with transversely mounted inline 6 ;) .

@jhd1124
Thing with AWD is it let's you get away with skinnier tires and makes car easier to drive. Well there is matter of additional weight and super skinny tires aren't that great in corners so yeah I'm not saying RWD in sub 100 hp car is pointless, I was just curious if there was some unusual reason for choosing it.
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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:28 am

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4WD is absolutely pointless for "Grip" in a car that only has 90 horsepower and weighs 1277 kilos, really. 4WD would also ultimately weigh the car down and also generate understeer, lowering the sporty feeling of the car. Unless you can name one legitimate thing you could do with a 90 horsepower vehicle that would require 4WD, I'm just going to see it as the same "I know better" response jhd tends to get for his cars.


As for FWD, it's overdone, and not very fun. They understeer under acceleration, with the exception of a few with fancy diffs, and are generic among compact vehicles. RWD makes the Mark-I unique among its class, and also gives you a good chance to have some old fashioned sideways fun if you find a damp, empty road. (Provided you can get a car with such low power sideways without trying to spin it out.)

Not only that, but I do believe Longitudinal has cheaper maintenance than Transverse, due to the engine bay being less crowded.
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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:54 am

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Calm down man, I never said he would be better off with something else. I was merely curious if there is something *I* missed that makes RWD particularly good for economic city car in automation or if he just wanted to make it more sporty. Also lol at "I know better" part, you know I'll actually act like a "smartass" now and tell you that there is plenty of real-life 4x4 cars that actually have less horsepower than 90.
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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:36 am

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No need for heated debate! We at Camoria Automotive chose RWD to make the car a little different and fun. We acknowledged that FWD is the mute normal choice, but we wanted to distinguish our cars from others in our class. We also felt that AWD would not benefit the car in that it both worsens fuel economy and add extra weight to a car that went see much off-roading. We are pleased to see the car get a much attention as it has. We value your opinions because it tells us you hold us to a higher standard. Also, we do hope you enjoy the design and add campaign.
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Post Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:08 am

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Janekk wrote:Calm down man, I never said he would be better off with something else. I was merely curious if there is something *I* missed that makes RWD particularly good for economic city car in automation or if he just wanted to make it more sporty. Also lol at "I know better" part, you know I'll actually act like a "smartass" now and tell you that there is plenty of real-life 4x4 cars that actually have less horsepower than 90.


I'm actually well aware that there are plenty of 4WD cars with less than 90 horsepower, my statement was that it was pretty much pointless for most things you would feasibly do with such a car. Driving in snowy conditions is the only practical application I could think of for such. As you'd typically buy a specialist vehicle if you planned to go off-roading, and definitely one with plenty more torque.

No "Smartass"-ness taken, personally. It's important to know that the "I know better" comment was due to the annoyingly large quantity of people that want to give him a engineering lesson over some less-than-perfect decisions. I'm merely looking out for a friend. :)

It's equally important to know that I have an aggressive writing style, so you probably felt hostility that was never actually in my reply.
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Camoria Mark-R

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Design:

Front Fascia:
The AM-Grille expands greatly to present an air of luxury. We wanted this car to sport a heavy look--a look that, while sporty, expresses to those around the car that the driver never needs to be anywhere quickly.
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Headlamps of Horus:
The famous Camoria design takes a different turn. In the past, the headlights used looked, in some way, vein. Due to a glitch in the CAD, the actual lamp itself never appeared. This gave the car a pleasing look, but it never evoked as much passion as it could. The designers at Camoria wanted the car to feel extra special, so they crafted these new lights that expose the car's true character.
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[color=#FF0000]Venti-Ports[/color]:
The classic Buick-Camoria design also makes a more passionate change. Whereas before the ports were quite large and over-decorated, these new ports are long and sleek to match the profile of the car.
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Side Fascia:
As forward-moving as Camoria is, we have no shame for our heritage. The entire span of our luxury car lineup, for 60 years, has featured a band of chrome across the side fascia. This adds the perfect amount of detailing to the sides to address to the world that you have arrived. The design has carried well over the years. It seems to meet all of the luxury standards throughout the years.
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Rear Fascia:
Though a lip at the bottom of both the front and rear bumpers is customary for Camoria cars, this car distinctly lacks them. The is to emphasize a previously mentioned design language of weight. The lip made the car look too sporty. This works very well for other Camoria cars, but a luxury car's responsibility to the driver and passenger is not sportiness, but rather comfort. The softer edges of the lip-less bumpers evoke a sense of affluent comfort.
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Stats:
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Engine:
Provided by oppositelock, this engine does everything a luxury car could need:
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Post Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:20 pm

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Good to know my V8 is going into such a nice looking home. ;)
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Post Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:37 am

Camoria Python

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Design:

Front Fascia:
The front fascia features a modified version of the AM-Grille. The vertical lines are pinched to add a sporty look.
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Headlamps of Horus:
The headlamps, like most Camoria designs, are encased in a vent. These however, differ, as most of the Camoria headlamps are centered in the vent. The headlamps on this one are at the top.
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Rear Fascia:
Keeping with a more 90s American theme, the rear fascia is sporty, yet modest. While this contrasts from the front, the designers felt that this flow of lines works best for the car.
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Stats:
Feast, my children:
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Engine:
This engine is a modified Northstar engine, entitled the AM-4.6:
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Post Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:15 am

Camoria Mark-Q

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Design:

Front Fascia:
What can we say, we love our signature. The grille makes a delightful return with the new body styles.
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Headlights:
The lights make an attractive ring around the unit.
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Rear Fascia:
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Stats:
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Engine:
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Post Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:26 am

Re: Camoria Automotive: The Best Isn't Good Enough

WOW that is a fine looking car, definitely up there with the forum's best!

And 780hp?! That definitely is mundane, interrupted. :P Very well done!
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Post Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:05 pm

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Haha! Glad you like it! The headlamps for me are much more passionate with the indicator rather than a conventional headlamp.
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Post Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:31 pm

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The Mark Q is one of the best looking cars in the this thread.
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Post Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:02 pm

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The Mark-Q is without a doubt, one of the top 5 best looking cars I've ever seen in Automation.

The exterior is bold, but not too wild. It still holds a sense of maturity and functionality in addition to the styling. I really like it, it almost makes me sad that I stopped making engines for you outside of motorsport.
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