Camoria Automotive: The Best Isn't Good Enough

[jhd1124]

1st picture has correct stats but old body. The other shots are the current body. I didn't feel like taking all new photos for the first shot. I'll update if the world comes crashing down around this.

[jhd1124]

Progress is impossible without change, and those who cannot change their minds cannot change anything
-George Bernard Shaw


It is time for change within Camoria Automotive. Our previous philosophy has served us well, even brought on some of our greatest, most critically-acclaimed cars. Yet, as many greats do, it must retire. Brand imaging has been our greatest triumph and our greatest downfall. Our imaging has been uses so much that we fear it has made the cars look unoriginal. It no longer took much effort to slab together a car to present. This could not do. We at Camoria Automotive hold ourselves to a higher standard. We hold the public to a higher stand. Thus, we commenced change. After many weeks of reorganization, Camoria Automotive is proud to present its newest design language:

Artistic Momentum:

Modeled very similarly to our Sculpted Physics division, Artistic Momentum follows the philosophy of beauty through engineering. When designing our cars, we focus on passion, art, and emotion.

Why can't car companies just make an attractive car?
We're doing that

Why can't car companies just make a simple car, without a million gadgets?
We're doing that

Why can't I have a nice car for little money?
We're doing that

We have reached the generation of Camoria Automotive cars where we can say "We're doing that." We are a company of doers, and we will not hold ourselves back by doing things conventionally.

[size=150]What will propel us into the next generation?/size]:



It's not the most powerful, it's not the most efficient, and it's not the most torque-filled. What it is is a basic, cheap, reliable engine. That's what Artistic Momentum is meant to be. Camoria Automotive still believes that the best isn't good enough, but now our best is producing what is best for you.

[jhd1124]

Design:

Front Fascia:
The Horus Headlamps are distinctively absent from this production. Don't let that discourage you, for in its place are two strikingly aggressive headlamps. Featured as well is a slim center grille, as requested by users.


A New Grille:
Egad! Could it be true? Yes, it is true, and it is a revolution. The new grille cleans up the entire front fascia. Those thick bands surrounding each vent on the old grille have been replaced with a slim and stylish new one. The vertical lines down the middle add a bit of variety to the grille. The ends also bend down at a more significant level than the stock grille design. We hope that this pleases the eye and would appreciate any comments, positive or negative, about it.


Venti-Ports:
We couldn't resist.


Rear Fascia:
We went with a more traditional look for the rear fascia. We chose some stock headlamps and molded them to give them a sleek, aggressive look.





Engine:


We really hope you enjoy the new design and would greatly value any comments.

[Cheeseman]

The design of your cars is always very inventive and very clever and almost all of your designs I like, so I must praise you massively there. I do have a few comments to make about each car though that appears on this page:

Camoria I-Style: The car itself is fine, it is the engine that concerns me. The power at anything below 5000 rpm is hot hatch level, not supercar level and the MTBF is 0. 244 CI is about 4 litres if I am not mistaken, so perhaps making the engine a bit bigger and the turbos a bit smaller may help achieve a better and more useful powerband and perhaps even fix the MTBF issue. Other than that, the car seems superb.

Camoria L-Style: Perfect, however engine needs optimizing as 74 AKI seems very low.

Camoria GTC G2: Same story as the I-Style.

The Artistic Momentum turbo engine: Turbo power as of 5k rpm, redline at 5.8k rpm. You have a short burst of power right at the end of the rev range and every time you shift you will end up with next to no power. Not good at all.

Camoria Mark-X: Tiny engine making big power is not ideal for cars like this, not to mention the poor reliability. The design, as always is fantastic.

[jhd1124]

Thank you very much for your concerns. I am always proud to have people care enough about the brand to want to improve it.

I do have some responses, as a brand:

I-Style and G2: The Super 8 has served us well in the racing division. We understand that it is not perfect at the moment, and will always be improving, but until our friends at MONO Performance send over something we feel is better (There is something in the works) we will put it in. The G2s reliability issue is an easy ventilation error on my part.

L-Style: Camoria has plans to replace that engine with a V8 variant, but desired to show off the car before.

AM: The engine is a baseline engine that serves with out motto: "The Best Isn't Good Enough." We want to demonstrate our improvement by introducing an engine (currently unused in any of our vehicles) that can be greatly enhanced. Progress of this will be marketed on the forums.

Mark-X: The MTBF does concern us, and we will work on improving it. That car as well, will feature a V8 variant soon.


As a forum member/ game player:

I am not particularly brilliant at designing engines. They've never been my strong spot nor the area where I take pleasure from the game. This is why I add so much detail to explaining my designs and not much about the engine. I always value comments about how I can improve on my tuning and engine choices, but at heart, this is a coach-building forum. What I took away from your comments was that you liked the design of my new car, which is what concerned me more than anything else.

[CNSpots1]

The design of your cars is always very inventive and very clever and almost all of your designs I like, so I must praise you massively there. I do have a few comments to make about each car though that appears on this page:

Camoria I-Style: The car itself is fine, it is the engine that concerns me. The power at anything below 5000 rpm is hot hatch level, not supercar level and the MTBF is 0. 244 CI is about 4 litres if I am not mistaken, so perhaps making the engine a bit bigger and the turbos a bit smaller may help achieve a better and more useful powerband and perhaps even fix the MTBF issue. Other than that, the car seems superb.

Camoria GTC G2: Same story as the I-Style.

I shoulder full responsibility for the engine, as it was my handiwork.

It's important to note that the Super-Eight was never intended for practical street use, it's designed only with operating at race RPM in mind. Thus, naturally it is compromised at lower RPM. The idea was big power, small engine. However, despite the "Hot hatch power level" below 5000RPM, it still goes like a stabbed rat and in my own test runs, was able to chew the 1/4 mile in a 1400kg RWD car at around 9 seconds.

MTBF is not actually a big problem either, because when in a car with proper cooling it's able to get around 30 - 50 reliability. Much greater than the silly bugged "0km" range.

[jhd1124]

A Rally-Cross Car for the Ages




Design:





Engine:


This car will be competing in the CTC2. We would greatly value any comments on the design of the car!

[VicVictory]

At the risk of helping out a direct competitor...

Those are some awfully wide tires for something with a sportiness rating of only 5. And I'm fairly certain it's helping kill your fuel economy. The competition calculates annual fuel cost and figures it in (to what degree I'm not sure at this point) so if you can eke out a little more MPG without dropping your other stats, that might help. Most of the ratings on our cars are very similar, but I have you beat on economy by 8 MPG (AND on sportiness by 1, despite that).

Assuming you haven't submitted yet, you have time to flesh things out. I've already submitted, so if you improve and beat me, I'll just kick myself later.

[jhd1124]

We tested our car based on Der Bayer's base model. Given everything we calculated, we are satisfied with our car. Also, this being our first CTC, we are not looking to win, but more take the temperature of the situation so we can have greater success in later ones.

[VicVictory]

Fair enough. See you in the competition.

[jhd1124]

Design:

Front Fascia:
Vicious, isn't it? The snarling model features a very prominent bass-mouth grille. It also features the newer version of the Horus Headlamps.




Venti-Ports:
Just one


Rear Fascia:
We are utilizing something known within the brand as the Impact taillight design. Like the Horus Headlamp design, it revolves around a vent with a taillight in the center. The Impact design, however, utilizes primarily this vent design.




Engine:
Supplied by our new Engine Builders, Smolensk

[YugoSpy]

God damn, that car seems to cost a fortune! With the help of turbocharging, you can get similar performance at a much lower price. Here is a quick example I made in 5 mins:



Regular quality fuel (91 RON), no quality sliders, "only" 6,8 liter.

The car still looks beautiful, just like your other designs.

[jhd1124]

Thank you for your interest. This car is not designed to be mass-produced. While it is a production car, it will be sold in very limited quantities for a very small market. The quality of the materials raises the price, but also allows us to be placed second in the Airfield Track. Once again, we would like to stress that we post our engines as a formality to the forum. We are really interested in the public's opinions, whether negative or positive, about the design. We apologize for the lack of explanation in the previous post. One might be able to understand better once the official results of the Airfield Track time are posted.

[Lothoren]

I love the bass mouth grill and the way you have designed it. But in not so keen on the vents to the side of it, they look kinda bland and boring, at least to me they do.

[jhd1124]

Thank you for your response. I really value constructive criticism on my designs. I wanted to incorporate a classic Camoria design cue, but it seems it could stand to be integrated better. Before releasing the car, I did a major overhaul of the rear fascia and some minor touch-ups on the front, but I neglected to work on the side. I will try and edit it to look better.


Edit: Here are the new photos!