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2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:42 pm
by coni
2.0L 841 HP eco motor

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:47 am
by Razyx
Coni, your engine life is 0 (MTBF value) and the economy value not that good (8%).
I'll suggest that you take a look around the forum and/or give a try to some tutorial scenarios in the game.
You will see how to improve everything :)

ED: The engine that you made in this post is OK (many man hours but ok).

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:15 pm
by Reaper392
Part of the reason for the 0MTBF is because of a bug in the engine designer for engines with very high specific outputs which means they do not receive anything close to adequate cooling. Also, reducing the RPM would help a lot because the valves are suffering massively

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:40 pm
by nialloftara
You can see and share the actual value of the MTBF by making a car with the required cooling, selecting the engine from the "choose engine" list, and clicking "revise engine". That opens the engine editor with the proper cooling and the value is shown correctly.

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:59 pm
by Reaper392
nialloftara wrote:You can see and share the actual value of the MTBF by making a car with the required cooling, selecting the engine from the "choose engine" list, and clicking "revise engine". That opens the engine editor with the proper cooling and the value is shown correctly.


that is assuming it is possible to make a car that can adequately cool the engine. For these little turbo engines it is possible, but the biggest of the turbo engines can require well above 4000kW of cooling, which is more than any of the cars can provide. I think the best I have managed is a hair over 2000kW without making the car look ridiculous (although I did cheat and covered up one of the vents with a front splitter)

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:07 pm
by nialloftara
Reaper392 wrote:
nialloftara wrote:You can see and share the actual value of the MTBF by making a car with the required cooling, selecting the engine from the "choose engine" list, and clicking "revise engine". That opens the engine editor with the proper cooling and the value is shown correctly.


that is assuming it is possible to make a car that can adequately cool the engine. For these little turbo engines it is possible, but the biggest of the turbo engines can require well above 4000kW of cooling, which is more than any of the cars can provide. I think the best I have managed is a hair over 2000kW without making the car look ridiculous (although I did cheat and covered up one of the vents with a front splitter)


you can overlap several grills to make a test bed car

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:09 pm
by Jakgoe
Yes, it is exploiting a glitch, but you can get some crazy cooling figure out of it.

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:36 am
by ryandude2448
Really? 8.87% is economic?

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:40 am
by TheColoredCow
Razyx wrote:Coni, your engine life is 0 (MTBF value) and the economy value not that good (8%).
I'll suggest that you take a look around the forum and/or give a try to some tutorial scenarios in the game.
You will see how to improve everything :)

ED: The engine that you made in this post is OK (many man hours but ok).

really?? that engine is powerful sure but eco NO BLODDY WAY THATS ECO :evil:

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:23 pm
by Razyx
TheColoredCow wrote:
Razyx wrote:Coni, your engine life is 0 (MTBF value) and the economy value not that good (8%).
I'll suggest that you take a look around the forum and/or give a try to some tutorial scenarios in the game.
You will see how to improve everything :)

ED: The engine that you made in this post is OK (many man hours but ok).

really?? that engine is powerful sure but eco NO BLODDY WAY THATS ECO :evil:


Dunno if you have noticed that the sentence 'this post' (highlighted) has an hyperlink to a post in the thread; "4.5L V8 eco box".., I was talking about that (Coni's) engine, not the one in here ;) .

Re: 2.0L 841 HP eco motor

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:20 am
by Reaper392
nialloftara wrote:
Reaper392 wrote:
nialloftara wrote:You can see and share the actual value of the MTBF by making a car with the required cooling, selecting the engine from the "choose engine" list, and clicking "revise engine". That opens the engine editor with the proper cooling and the value is shown correctly.


that is assuming it is possible to make a car that can adequately cool the engine. For these little turbo engines it is possible, but the biggest of the turbo engines can require well above 4000kW of cooling, which is more than any of the cars can provide. I think the best I have managed is a hair over 2000kW without making the car look ridiculous (although I did cheat and covered up one of the vents with a front splitter)


you can overlap several grills to make a test bed car

I thought that was fixed in the current public release. I've tried most combinations and get no benefit from overlapping them