Autoipari Ceg Car Company!

[deanwells1234]

This is the Engine section of the Autoipari Ceg Car Manufacturer line!
Autoipari believes in giving people a choice between power (the S series) A middle ground (the C series) and the economic (the E series). While all these series of engines have their own ups and downs the majority of the cars offered by Autoipari Ceg allow for the transfer of any kind of engine into any kind of model of car. Lets start off with the E Series.

E-Series
The E-Series, which contains the E-190, E-220 and E-250, are the back bone of the economic choice when it come to Vehicles! The E-series comes standard in most of the low, entry level priced vehicles with the prices of the engines running from just over $1700 - $2300 for buying a complete engine! these inexpensive 4 cylinder engines come in a variety of power, from the E-190 putting out just over 100HP to the E-250 pushing out over 200HP all while saving you on gas prices! These small little engines will last anyone well over 70,000 KM before any major repairs may be needed and are all very easy and quick to produce.

E-190


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-190
Engine Type: 1.9L 16-valve in-line 4 SOHC
Horsepower (net@rpm): 104 @ 5000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 121 @ 2400
Redline: 5000
MTBF: 75683 KM (47027 Miles)
Weight: 237.7 Ibs.
Size: 486mm x 444mm x 313mm
RON: 91
Economy: 341.8 g/kWh (22.51%)
Emissions: 122

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 36.5
Loudness: 31.4
Smoothness: 55.8
Service Cost: $598.92 / year
Material Cost: $614.26
Man Hours: 27.9
Total Cost to buyer: $1739.27

This beautiful little engine pushes out more then enough power to give the smaller sedan and hatchbacks that it powers some pick-up. On top of being very inexpensive to produce and buy this little engine won't break the bank on upkeep cost or on gas! The ideal engine to put into any small car for someone looking to save at the pumps or someone looking for a reliable and inexpensive entry vehicle!

E-220


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-220
Engine Type: 2.2L 16-valve in-line 4 SOHC
Horsepower (net@rpm): 151 @ 6300
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 147 @ 3800
Redline: 6300
MTBF: 73269 KM (45527 Miles)
Weight: 258.2 Ibs.
Size: 501mm x 458mm x 323mm
RON: 91
Economy: 415. 6 g/kWh (18.51%)
Emissions: 104

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 36.7
Loudness: 31.1
Smoothness: 54.9
Service Cost: $625.96 / year
Material Cost: $663.35
Man Hours: 29.7
Engine Cost to buyer: $1869.67

This little 4 cylinder, a small step up from the E-190, really puts it mouth where its HP is! for roughly $100 more this engine will push out just over 150 HP! a significant boost of its smaller counterpart! This engine is still a affordable choice that won't break your bank and has a very minimal upkeep cost. Quick to produce and long lasting this engine will give you the power that you want, without pinching you at the pumps!

E-250


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-250
Engine Type: 2.5L 16-valve in-line 4 SOHC
Horsepower (net@rpm): 206 @ 7000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 182 @ 3800
Redline: 7000
MTBF: 72570 KM (45093 Miles)
Weight: 289.8 Ibs.
Size: 523mm x 454mm x 332mm
RON: 95
Economy: 379.3 g/kWh (20.28%)
Emissions: 147

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 47.4
Loudness: 37.0
Smoothness: 52.3
Service Cost: $869.84 / year
Material Cost: $726.76
Man Hours: 43.2
Engine Cost to buyer: $2261.62

The power house of the E Series, this little 2.5 Litre 4 cylinder engine will get you moving with over 200 HP! while it does recommend a higher octane fuel that may cost you more at the pump this little guy makes up for it in the wonderful economy numbers it boosts, almost hitting those of the E-190! while this engine will cost you a little more, and wont be ready as quick, it still wont break your bank at the pump or for maintenance!

C Series
This section is under construction

S Series
This section is under construction

S-500


Engine Specifications:
Engine: S-500
Engine Type: 5.0L 40-valve XP 8 DOHC
Horsepower (net@rpm): 309 @ 7700
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 299 @ 2200
Redline: 7700
MTBF: 64939 KM (40351 Miles)
Weight: 566.1 Ibs.
Size: 523mm x 468mm x 520mm
RON: 91
Economy: 416.2 g/kWh (18.48%)
Emissions: 165

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 38.3
Loudness: 27.6
Smoothness: 65.3
Service Cost: $995.29 / year
Material Cost: $977.94
Man Hours: 66.7
Engine Cost to buyer: $3289.88

This cross plane V8 powerhouse is one of the biggest mass production engines that Autoipari Ceg sells. With a bigger price tag then most engines this engine will run you close to $3300! This engine does have good economy. This engine is also one of the smoothest rides that Auroipari produces, which will cost you around $1000 a year in upkeep. The S-500 is the perfect engine for any luxury-power sedan or hot hatchback!

[benceboc]

It is a little off-topic, but your company name means "Car Company" in hungarian. Is it possible that you have some hungarian ancestors, or it is just coincidence?:)

[deanwells1234]

It is a little off-topic, but your company name means "Car Company" in hungarian. Is it possible that you have some hungarian ancestors, or it is just coincidence?:)

I am 25% hungarian! I know the name isnt the best name if you know hungarian, but Autoipari Ceg sounds like a good name if you dont haha

[torogami]

It is a little off-topic, but your company name means "Car Company" in hungarian. Is it possible that you have some hungarian ancestors, or it is just coincidence?:)

I am 25% hungarian! I know the name isnt the best name if you know hungarian, but Autoipari Ceg sounds like a good name if you dont haha

Lots of car company names are lame if you know the language. Ferrari is basically smith in Italian.

[Cheeseman]

The E-220 needs a fair amount of work as 18% economy is rather poor. You need to be aiming for something more like 25% before it can be really considered eco. Ford Ecoboost engines achieve roughly 27% for reference.

[KD14]

hey deanwells, i think i have a couple of things to say that will improve your engines. Assuming your manufacturing year is 2013, your engines are outdated in terms of parts and tuning, straight line engines of today use SOHC and iron only in the small capacities like 1.2L 1.4L

About your E-190, its done wrong, first time i saw 104@5000 i thought "oh 104hp that peaks at 5000 rpm thats realy nice" but then i saw its limited to 5000rpm, so i guess this engine can make at least 20hp more just from increasing the redline.
The economy of a low rpm engine comes into place when the engine peaks at low rpm, then you have a nice arched power band on the graph which shows that most of the power comes well before the peak rpm, thats a low rpm fuel saver.

The E-220 is much nicer, try putting a DOHC in it and decreasing the cam profile.

The E-250 is a fuel consuming engine since it has a sporty cam profile and it peaks at high rpm. The fuel efficiency is not always an indication of the economy of the engine thought 20% efficiency in your case is really not economical efficiency. As Cheeseman said, good efficiency starts from 25%

About your S-500 engine, i have my own 4.5L which has direct injection, aluminum block and head, SOHC and tuned for 95 octane, which produce 306hp@5600rpm and 325lbft@3500rpm, 23.5% efficiency.
I modified that engine to a multipoint injection, iron block and head and tuned for 91 octane and these are the results:

4.5L XP 32V SOHCRev2.lua

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It has 15hp less but it peaks in a much lower rpm, and if you will increase its capacity to 5L like yours, it will produce at least 320hp.
I would like you to upload the lua your S-500 if you wish so i can see what you are doing wrong

[deanwells1234]

About your E-190, its done wrong, first time i saw 104@5000 i thought "oh 104hp that peaks at 5000 rpm thats realy nice" but then i saw its limited to 5000rpm, so i guess this engine can make at least 20hp more just from increasing the redline.
The economy of a low rpm engine comes into place when the engine peaks at low rpm, then you have a nice arched power band on the graph which shows that most of the power comes well before the peak rpm, thats a low rpm fuel saver.

Okay that makes sense but how would I make my engine limited to around 100 HP and peak it earlier? Also what are some ways that I can make the Economy/efficiency better?

The E-250 is a fuel consuming engine since it has a sporty cam profile and it peaks at high rpm. The fuel efficiency is not always an indication of the economy of the engine thought 20% efficiency in your case is really not economical efficiency. As Cheeseman said, good efficiency starts from 25%

I wouldnt expect the E-250 to be a huge fuel saver but still hopefully better then say a mid sized Inline-6 of small V8? Again any hints to make better efficiency?

I would like you to upload the lua your S-500 if you wish so i can see what you are doing wrong

5.0L XP 40V DOHC (S-500)Rev0.lua

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[Cheeseman]

A normal petrol engine's max power is usually around 6000 rpm so I don't see why you want the engine to reach max power earlier. I have a 1.2-litre direct injection DOHC N/A engine that produces as much power as this and has 26% efficiency, and because it is so small it doesn't cost much (and it loves revs: 7500!). Just use the more efficient fuel injection systems and adjusting your cam profiles can really help too. Have a look on carfolio and see how current manufacturers and see the specs of their engines and see how efficient they come out. This helps too. For reference, Ford EcoBoost engines are some of the most efficient in the world at around 270 g/kWh. Most petrol engines are in the low 300s

[KD14]

Cheeseman, because the rpm has a great effect on the fuel consumption, low rpm peak engines are more economical, and they are also feel stronger because the power comes sooner, this is why 1.6L TDI 100hp feels stronger, and much more economical then a normal 1.6L 100hp, you also press less on the throttle in the diesel engine when in the low revs.
And on a car, not in the dyno, your 1.2L will be as economic as a 1.6L that has lets say 23-24% efficiency and produce the same hp, because the 1.6L will pull harder in the low revs.
Such small engines with high cam profile is suited for small and sporty cars, not for economical family cars like deanwells's 1.9L, because when the car is light, you can afford it to pull less on low revs without dramatic effect on the fuel consumption.
Fuel consumption is not all about the engine's efficiency.

And about the 1.9L, its old, today no one will be interested in 1.9L that makes only 100hp, with the technology of today this engine is non sense but in automation you make what you like!

deanwells, i dont have much time this week, but at a first look at your engine, i can see that you dont know much XD, i extracted 150hp more from your S-500 just from increasing the exhaust diameter. Some parts have a maximum hp rating that is written above the parts menu once you select them, the exahust diameter you choosed (i dont remember im not at home right now) is for engines that produce less then 200hp.

Cam profile of 85 is non sense either in this case, cause with such profile, the engine becomes efficient only at around 6000 - 7000 rpm in not higher, also a 85 cam profile in a 5L engine with a proper setup should give you at least 550hp (but at around 8000 - 9000 rpm where the peak will be of course). Cam profile also have effect on where the peak will be, the higher the profile, the higher the rpm of peak, the cylinder head's configuration and the ignition timing also affect the peak.

Besides that there are more things that are wrong that i wont get into right now, you have a lot to learn and i suggest you to watch the video tutorials inside the engine designer (the small "i" button in the buttom of the description window) or watch them again if you already have.
I will remake your engines the way i know and ill upload them once i have time.
I also recommand you to donwload other people engines and exam their setup.

[Cheeseman]

Cheeseman, because the rpm has a great effect on the fuel consumption, low rpm peak engines are more economical, and they are also feel stronger because the power comes sooner, this is why 1.6L TDI 100hp feels stronger, and much more economical then a normal 1.6L 100hp, you also press less on the throttle in the diesel engine when in the low revs.
And on a car, not in the dyno, your 1.2L will be as economic as a 1.6L that has lets say 23-24% efficiency and produce the same hp, because the 1.6L will pull harder in the low revs.
Such small engines with high cam profile is suited for small and sporty cars, not for economical family cars like deanwells's 1.9L, because when the car is light, you can afford it to pull less on low revs without dramatic effect on the fuel consumption.
Fuel consumption is not all about the engine's efficiency.

Yes rpm has an affect on fuel consumption but you don't drive around doing more than 4000 rpm in a car with petrol engine normally, so raising the rpm limit won't make any difference. You only reach 6000-7000 rpm when you really need to. Low rpm engines with low max peaks do pull better at low revs but his engine is reaching max power at the rev limit and you can clearly see the blue line is still going up when it reaches it so that means that increasing the rev limit will find him the true max power peak. It is true that diesel engines pull better lower down than petrol engines but you can't possibly compare them as they have had different amounts of refining meaning they are different fuels and because of this diesel engines work differently to petrol engines. If two different sized engines had the same power and torque both would pull identically, so the idea you have that a bigger engine will pull better isn't strictly true. Also when you know the efficiency of your engine to take fuel consumption into account you must consider the rpm and size of the engine because the cylinders are smaller. Comparing a 1.9-litre engine and 1.2-litre engine with the same power and efficiency the smaller engine will always have better fuel consumption.

[KD14]

the idea you have that a bigger engine will pull better isn't strictly true.

You right, the final figures is the matter, i used the bigger capacities just for example as bigger engines usually have more power at lower revs in relation to smaller capacities, but its not the only variable that makes low end power of course.

Also when you know the efficiency of your engine to take fuel consumption into account you must consider the rpm and size of the engine because the cylinders are smaller. Comparing a 1.9-litre engine and 1.2-litre engine with the same power and efficiency the smaller engine will always have better fuel consumption.

You have a solid knowledge about it? cause i think that in theory its true, but in heavier cars then small hatchbacks, not 1.9L but 1.6L that peaks lets say at 5500rpm can be as economical as 1.2L that have the same amount of power but at 7500rpm, as with that engine you will always have to shift gear at a higher rpm then with the 1.6L.
I dont have a solid knowledge about it, but as i can see from cars specifications, i believe this is true, unless you have a more explanation about it

[deanwells1234]

The Updated E Series

Autoipari Ceg has decided with the demand for higher economy numbers to release a DOHC E-series. Featuring more power and better economy the new E-series does lack the same MTBF as the older SOHC engines. The New E-191, E-221LF, E-221F, and E-251 Are some of the best engines ever designed by the Autoipari Ceg car group. The following shows the old engine specifications in block quotes beside the new engine specifications!

*Note: The engine redlines of the E-series are at the peak of the engine performance, Redline peaked to try and keep MTBF as high as possible

E-191


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-191 [E-190]
Engine Type: 1.9L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC [SOHC]
Horsepower (net@rpm): 115 @ 6300 [104 @ 5000]
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 129 @ 2400 [121 @ 2400]
Redline: 6300 [5000]
MTBF: 70772 KM (43976 Miles) [75683 KM (47027 Miles)]
Weight (Ibs.): 274.2 [237.7]
Size: 484mm x 442mm x 331 mm [486mm x 444mm x 313mm]
AKI: 86.4 [86.4]
Economy (g/kWh): 312.9 (24.59%) [341.8 (22.51%)]
Emissions: 117 [122]

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 36.4 [36.5]
Loudness: 32.7 [31.4]
Smoothness: 59.9 [55.8]
Service Cost: $771.87 / year [$598.92 / year]
Material Cost: $600.50 [$614.26]
Man Hours: 33 [27.9]
Total Cost to buyer: $1795.00 [$1739.27]

The E-191 is a slightly more powerful engine then its predecessor the E-190 with its majority of noticeable difference coming in the Service cost and Economy sectors. Falling 5000 KM short on its MTBF compared to the E-190 the E-191 is the better economy car, saving money in the long run for the money conscious buyer.

E-221LF


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-221LF [E-220]
Engine Type: 2.2L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC [SOHC]
Horsepower (net@rpm): 169 @ 6400 [151 @ 6300]
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 152 @ 4500 [147 @ 3800]
Redline: 6400 [6300]
MTBF: 63776 KM (39629 Miles) [73269 KM (45527 Miles)]
Weight (Ibs.): 317.4 [258.2]
Size: 499mm x 421mm x 331mm [501mm x 458mm x 323mm]
AKI: 86.4 [86.4]
Economy (g/kWh): 315.1 (24.4%) [415. 6 (18.51%)]
Emissions: 121 [104]

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 40.6 [36.7]
Loudness: 33.8 [31.1]
Smoothness: 60.2 [54.9]
Service Cost: $812.44 / year [$625.96 / year]
Material Cost: $672.42 [$663.35]
Man Hours: 45.7 [29.7]
Engine Cost to buyer: $2167.44 [$1869.67]

The E-221LF runs with the Low Friction Pistons, which is why the Redline is stopped very prematurely at 6400 RPM. The E-221LF is an improvement on the E-220 in every way but will cost you around $300 more to buy and will last on average 10000 KM less before a failure (again due to the Low Friction Pistons). However this engine is on par with the E-191 when it comes to economy and is a much more responsive and smooth ride compared to both the E-191 and E-220.

E-221F


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-221F [E-220]
Engine Type: 2.2L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC [SOHC]
Horsepower (net@rpm): 175 @ 7300 [151 @ 6300]
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 152 @ 4500 [147 @ 3800]
Redline: 7300 [6300]
MTBF: 69122 KM (42950 Miles) [73269 KM (45527 Miles)]
Weight (Ibs.): 318.5 [258.2]
Size: 499mm x 421mm x 331mm [501mm x 458mm x 323mm]
AKI: 86.4 [86.4]
Economy (g/kWh): 350.1 (21.97%) [415. 6 (18.51%)]
Emissions: 142 [104]

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 40.6 [36.7]
Loudness: 34.1 [31.1]
Smoothness: 68.2 [54.9]
Service Cost: $812.44 / year [$625.96 / year]
Material Cost: $669.77 [$663.35]
Man Hours: 44.7 [29.7]
Engine Cost to buyer: $2144.14 [$1869.67]

Wanting to give some choice to the customers Autoipari Ceg offers the E-221F for those who are wanting to get more Power then the E-221LF and better MTBF with the cutting on the economy side. The E-221F still has better economy then the E-220 but does still lack the 4000 KM of MTBF the E-220 has. While it is up to the consumer to decide between the E-221LF and E-221F both are superior road warrior to the E-220 when it comes to power and economy, with the downside of paying more.

E-251


Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-251 [E-250]
Engine Type: 2.5L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC [SOHC]
Horsepower (net@rpm): 232 @ 7300 [206 @ 7000]
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 190 @ 5100 [182 @ 3800]
Redline: 7300 [7000]
MTBF: 68436 KM (42524 Miles) [72570 KM (45093 Miles)]
Weight (Ibs.): 343.7 [289.8]
Size: 520mm x 475mm x 406mm [523mm x 454mm x 332mm]
AKI: 86.4 [90.2]
Economy (g/kWh): 343.8 (22.38%) [379.3 (20.28%)]
Emissions: 146 [147]

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 39.2 [47.4]
Loudness: 36.3 [37.0]
Smoothness: 52.3 [52.3]
Service Cost: $850.84 [$869.84 / year]
Material Cost: $698.94 [$726.76]
Man Hours: 43.5 [43.2]
Engine Cost to buyer: $2180.88 [$2261.62]

The E-251 is one of the most unchanged engines in all the improved E-series engines. While becoming slightly more economical, powerful, and cost effective the E-251 is now tuned to run on 86.4 AKI fuel instead of previously being on 90.2, allowing for more people to buy and use the engine. Taking a hit in the MTBF and responsiveness is the only downside to the new and improved E-251.

[Cheeseman]

These are much better! Nice work (and happy birthday!)

[deanwells1234]

These are much better! Nice work (and happy birthday!)

Thank You Cheeseman! I don't think I would be able to get better Econ. without help and someone pretty much redoing the entire engine from start or throwing on a turbo! but I try!

[deanwells1234]

Announcing the E-Series Turbo Collection! The E-series Turbo Collection is meant to bring extreme levels of economic efficiency to the E-Series engines! Although there is around $1000 difference in price from the N/A E-Series engines they do bring the E-Series into a whole new level of efficiency!

E-191T

Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-191T
Engine Type: 1.9L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC EFI Turbo
Horsepower (net@rpm): 117 @ 5700
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 170 @ 2000
Redline: 5700
MTBF: 68926 KM (42829 Miles)
Weight: 303.5 Ibs.
Size: 484mm x 442mm x 444mm
AKI: 90.3
Economy: 270.8 g/kWh (28.41%)
Emissions: 122

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 32.3
Loudness: 28.3
Smoothness: 59.9
Service Cost: $1212.75 / year
Material Cost: $1005.72
Man Hours: 33.3
Total Cost to buyer: $2610.84

E-221FT

Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-221FT
Engine Type: 2.2L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC EFI Turbo
Horsepower (net@rpm): 173 @ 6500
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 200 @ 2500
Redline: 6500
MTBF: 67678 KM (42053 Miles)
Weight: 349.3 Ibs.
Size: 499mm x 421mm x 450mm
AKI: 90.3
Economy: 325.3 g/kWh (23.65%)
Emissions: 159

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 36.0
Loudness: 29.0
Smoothness: 58.2
Service Cost: $1293.88 / year
Material Cost: $1080.81
Man Hours: 45
Total Cost to buyer: $2971.62

E-221LFT

Engine Specifications:
Engine: E-221LFT
Engine Type: 2.2L 16-valve in-line 4 DOHC EFI Turbo
Horsepower (net@rpm): 171 @ 6400
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm): 202 @ 2400
Redline: 6400
MTBF: 61150 KM (37997 Miles)
Weight: 347.9 Ibs.
Size: 499mm x 421mm x 448mm
AKI: 90.3
Economy: 282.3 g/kWh (27.25%)
Emissions: 125

Other Specifications:
Responsiveness: 36.2
Loudness: 28.7
Smoothness: 60.2
Service Cost: $1293.88 / year
Material Cost: $1081.87
Man Hours: 46
Total Cost to buyer: $2991.74