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Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:52 am
by Dareios90
I'm very happy with this decision!
I own Automation and I want to take it as one my favourite game.
This fact for me means that I want to take only this games and a few others as installers also in the "serious purpose" notebook or desktop!

I ever didn't use Multiplayer, so for me there is no change if you release the stand-alone launcher without MP.

Thanks Guys! :D

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 6:49 am
by BigFatStupidHead
I am extremely satisfied with this solution. Thanks for keeping us Steam luddites in mind!

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:57 am
by shaunisradd
Yeah. Logical as always. Good idea if you ask me.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:55 am
by wyatt
Any idea on a time frame for the Steam release?

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:57 am
by Killrob
We give no dates as you know, but the time frame is "a few months", it is the next big update and we've come about half-way in it.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:09 pm
by autofrank
This decision works for me. Steam is the future. You'll have many more sales this way once the game is completed.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:40 am
by Driver69
As an old school gamer and huge fan of automation, I am morally opposed to Steam, Origin, Ubiplay, etc, but I love this game although I do not care about the multiplayer part. So this decision makes me happy and I'm glad we could work out something that satisfies everyone.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:02 pm
by Microwave
Driver69 wrote:As an old school gamer and huge fan of automation, I am morally opposed to Steam, Origin, Ubiplay, etc, but I love this game although I do not care about the multiplayer part. So this decision makes me happy and I'm glad we could work out something that satisfies everyone.


May I ask, why do you hate Steam so much? It's probably one of the best things to ever happen to PC gaming.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 1:28 am
by Absurdist
A solid solution that should keep everyone satisfied. Well done.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:23 am
by Driver69
Microwave wrote:
Driver69 wrote:As an old school gamer and huge fan of automation, I am morally opposed to Steam, Origin, Ubiplay, etc, but I love this game although I do not care about the multiplayer part. So this decision makes me happy and I'm glad we could work out something that satisfies everyone.


May I ask, why do you hate Steam so much? It's probably one of the best things to ever happen to PC gaming.



I can go to the store in my car, or I can call a limousine and have someone take me there. I have been playing computer games since the early 90s, and I am just fine buying games at the store or online in the mail, and downloading patches from the developer. I also enjoy knowing that as my hardware changes, I can pop in any disc and play my games, not being attached to a service.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:19 pm
by Microwave
Driver69 wrote:
Microwave wrote:
Driver69 wrote:As an old school gamer and huge fan of automation, I am morally opposed to Steam, Origin, Ubiplay, etc, but I love this game although I do not care about the multiplayer part. So this decision makes me happy and I'm glad we could work out something that satisfies everyone.


May I ask, why do you hate Steam so much? It's probably one of the best things to ever happen to PC gaming.



I can go to the store in my car, or I can call a limousine and have someone take me there. I have been playing computer games since the early 90s, and I am just fine buying games at the store or online in the mail, and downloading patches from the developer. I also enjoy knowing that as my hardware changes, I can pop in any disc and play my games, not being attached to a service.


Nah, game discs are rapidly becoming obsolete. What if the disc breaks? What if you can only use it on one computer? What if that computer then proceeds to break? Why waste money on discs that are more expensive?

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:49 am
by Driver69
Microwave wrote:Nah, game discs are rapidly becoming obsolete. What if the disc breaks? What if you can only use it on one computer? What if that computer then proceeds to break? Why waste money on discs that are more expensive?



In 20 years of gaming and music purchasing I have not had a single disc break except for ones that I purposely wanted to throw out. Maybe people should be careful with things they pay for? All the games with limited installs do allow multiple installs. Computer failures...maybe, although most real PC gamers know what to do to prevent or fix that. Anyway, I will gladly pay an extra $10 to $15 to have a real physical object in my hand, that I truly own and know I can play on any computer, and even if the company that made the game and sold it no longer exists.

Edit: My comments are about gaming in general, I don't predict anything bad for Camshaft because they are awesome.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 3:48 am
by maffc
Driver69 wrote:
Microwave wrote:Nah, game discs are rapidly becoming obsolete. What if the disc breaks? What if you can only use it on one computer? What if that computer then proceeds to break? Why waste money on discs that are more expensive?



In 20 years of gaming and music purchasing I have not had a single disc break except for ones that I purposely wanted to throw out. Maybe people should be careful with things they pay for? All the games with limited installs do allow multiple installs. Computer failures...maybe, although most real PC gamers know what to do to prevent or fix that. Anyway, I will gladly pay an extra $10 to $15 to have a real physical object in my hand, that I truly own and know I can play on any computer, and even if the company that made the game and sold it no longer exists.

Edit: My comments are about gaming in general, I don't predict anything bad for Camshaft because they are awesome.


I used to think I wanted a physical disk, but then it became that DRM meant you needed the disk in the machine to play (unless you sought out no disk hacks). This was not convenient to me as I use a gaming laptop (admittedly it's getting on a bit now) and I didn't want to lug around half a dozen disks, or chose in advance what I wanted to play on my journeys.
Also the digital delivery method has helped me re-install games after I have rebuilt my machines. The only games I have forgotten to re-install have been physical disk based. Plus I don't have to drive anywhere to buy a new game, which is just as well since my local store has gone Console only (not that they had anything worth buying before that)

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:19 am
by PMP1337
Driver69 wrote:
Microwave wrote:Nah, game discs are rapidly becoming obsolete. What if the disc breaks? What if you can only use it on one computer? What if that computer then proceeds to break? Why waste money on discs that are more expensive?



In 20 years of gaming and music purchasing I have not had a single disc break except for ones that I purposely wanted to throw out. Maybe people should be careful with things they pay for? All the games with limited installs do allow multiple installs. Computer failures...maybe, although most real PC gamers know what to do to prevent or fix that. Anyway, I will gladly pay an extra $10 to $15 to have a real physical object in my hand, that I truly own and know I can play on any computer, and even if the company that made the game and sold it no longer exists.

Edit: My comments are about gaming in general, I don't predict anything bad for Camshaft because they are awesome.

I just cleaned my desk last summer, I found a copy of NFS Underground and the CDs has lot their layers. It didn't even read. So for me. Having solid copies doesn't make sense. Most games wont even run on newer machines.
Steam will be around for much longer than the duration of any disc you purchase now.

With Automation you wouldn't have a physical copy anyway so that argument isn't valid.

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:50 pm
by TofuWarrior
I have something to add.

What if we change our minds? :P Supposing Stram doesn't want to work, or we just want a taste of nostalgia.