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What do you think about completely converting to Steam, getting rid of the stand-alone launcher?

That’s fine, I would prefer Steam anyway.
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That’s inconvenient, but okay when it helps development.
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12%
That’s not an option for me; I want/need a stand-alone launcher.
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7%
 
Total votes : 888
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:09 am

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Steam would most likely be the best option for the majority of players, so that's what I'll go with.
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STEAM allows you to run the game offline (offline mode had a major rework and finally has been working without issues for a few months/years), you only have to be online when registering the game (which I think is the case even with current launcher, correct me if I'm wrong). There is also an option for the developers to use STEAM only as a store/downloading platform and not use steamworks, so the game works even without launching STEAM (for example older Paradox games like Hearts Of Iron 3), but I think you can't then use all the steamworks goodies like achievements, cloud saves, workshop, multiplayer etc. There is a reason Paradox moved from that model to full Steamworks integration despite opposition from some hardcore fans.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:23 am

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I voted for the third option since i do not use steam and would not want to open up an account over there. If you dont want to play online would it be an option to get a download of the full version when it is done (non steam/non launcher) and then get patches from the forum?

Just an idea, might still be more work so i do not know if it helps :D
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Ferrer wrote:I'm sorry but while I am a petrolhead I'm not very proficient with computers.

What would the change to Steam mean compared to today's straightforward (to me) approach?

Can someone enlighten me?



It'd be similarly straightforward, instead of installing the Automation launcher you'd install the Steam client and there would be a button in there to launch Automation. Patches would happen automatically with no input from you as long as Steam was open. That's really all that's much different.
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hillybilly wrote:I voted for the third option since i do not use steam and would not want to open up an account over there.


Out of interest, why would you not want to open an account there? Quite a few people seem less willing to create a Steam account than an Automation account and I'd like to know why.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:12 pm

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Most likely it is not steam vs automation but one vs two accounts.
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gt1cooper wrote:Most likely it is not steam vs automation but one vs two accounts.



Oh, but if we were pure Steam, you wouldn't even need an Automation account anymore :
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:02 pm

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Hey have many of us played Skyrim?

I know this might be besides the point, but remember its little sub-launcher in steam? And you could select mods, ect? Maybe do that, have the updates be via steam but retain the current launcher? Idk might make more people happy?
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Conza89 wrote: Maybe do that, have the updates be via steam but retain the current launcher? Idk might make more people happy?


It seems the folks who dislike the idea of steam, dislike it because they don't want to have to have any dealings with steam at all though.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:34 pm

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I'm a Steam user and am invested in their system, but voted option 2. I find the convenience of Steam to be of great benefit, but can totally appreciate why some users might have an objection to it. Having just voted and seen the poll results, I see that there is statistically only a very small portion of users that would not be on board for Steam. I say, go for it!
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:47 pm

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If it goes to steam I'm going to be very unhappy. I've had very bad luck with steam and do not like the program whatsoever. Please keep both options, we've payed good money!
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:56 pm

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Daffyflyer wrote:
hillybilly wrote:I voted for the third option since i do not use steam and would not want to open up an account over there.


Out of interest, why would you not want to open an account there? Quite a few people seem less willing to create a Steam account than an Automation account and I'd like to know why.

1. Customer support is terrible.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8& ... port+sucks
2. The program itself is rather annoying. No matter how many times I disable the feature to start on boot, it does anyway.
3. I don't need "social media" type features for my gaming. I just want to play! I don't want to have a profile tracking my progress and sharing my stats.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:23 pm

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Dwarden20 wrote:I've had very bad luck with steam



I'd also like to know more details about what bad luck you've had with it. I'm having difficulty understanding what the major difficulties people are having are.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:25 pm

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I vote for steam too!! :D

Option 2: Convert ALL keys to Steam and focus on that platform.


Steam. It's a great platform. It will greatly extend the market reach of the game too.

Keep up the fantastic work. Can't wait for early access and the full release.
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Post Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:39 pm

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Daffyflyer wrote:
Dwarden20 wrote:I've had very bad luck with steam



I'd also like to know more details about what bad luck you've had with it. I'm having difficulty understanding what the major difficulties people are having are.

Dwarden20 wrote:
Daffyflyer wrote:
Out of interest, why would you not want to open an account there? Quite a few people seem less willing to create a Steam account than an Automation account and I'd like to know why.

1. Customer support is terrible.
https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8& ... port+sucks
2. The program itself is rather annoying. No matter how many times I disable the feature to start on boot, it does anyway.

You want me to elaborate on both?
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