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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:18 am

Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Before I start, I'll make one thing clear: yes, I know that the engine designer will not be getting new features at the moment.


Where on the to-do list are modern turbocharging technologies such as twin scroll turbo and variable-geometry turbo? I'm having to choose between turbolag and high power output when designing engines (that or I fail at making engines). Most of my engines reach max turbo pressure at 2900-3100RPM with a lower boost pressure.

Will we be getting antilag systems for turbos, and if so, where in the to-do list are these? Throttle bypass, inlet bypass/secondary air injection, turbo & intercooler bypass and so forth.

Is it possible to put turbocharger related stuff higher up on the to-do list?
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:29 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Anti lag, as in the deliberate backfiring of the engine to keep the turbo pressure up and at the same time destroy the catalytic converters and chew up the turbine fins?
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:16 am

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Anti-lag systems aren't used in any production car, whereas variable-geometry turbos and twin-scroll turbos are very common in nowadays cars.
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:37 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

They have said that the forced induction calculations are to be revamped after the campaign mode comes out. It's been mentioned that both variable vane/geometry turbos and sequential turbos are very likely, but as far as I know are not officially confirmed. Twinscroll turbos I think are actually confirmed, or at least daffy is really eager to have them.
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:03 am

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NiuYorqCiti wrote:Anti-lag systems aren't used in any production car, whereas variable-geometry turbos and twin-scroll turbos are very common in nowadays cars.



Audi is developing a electric engine fitted in the turbo to rev the turbine. The same with the next gen of GT-R.

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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:13 am

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vmo wrote:
NiuYorqCiti wrote:Anti-lag systems aren't used in any production car, whereas variable-geometry turbos and twin-scroll turbos are very common in nowadays cars.



hold the f*** up, what about EVO3? factory antilag... further read - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilag_sy ... let_bypass
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:27 am

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There were a few WRC homogenous production cars (less than 2-3000) which had parts of the system installed but even the ones with full systems were not actually active from the factory. They are not street legal anywhere as far as I know.
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:45 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Turbo tech will get some major tweaks to make sure you can actually make modern turbos that spool up at low RPM, rather than the laggy 80s crap we have now ;)


Will probably add Twin Scroll then too I'd say.
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:14 am

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Daffyflyer wrote:Turbo tech will get some major tweaks to make sure you can actually make modern turbos that spool up at low RPM, rather than the laggy 80s crap we have now ;)


Will probably add Twin Scroll then too I'd say.


Excellent. Thanks for the answers. :)
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:23 am

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Daffyflyer wrote:Will probably add Twin Scroll then too I'd say.


Sweet!
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Post Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:33 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Daffyflyer wrote:Turbo tech will get some major tweaks to make sure you can actually make modern turbos that spool up at low RPM, rather than the laggy 80s crap we have now ;)


Will probably add Twin Scroll then too I'd say.


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Post Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:01 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

I try to use this existing thread, and I think it's an already known argument:

what about supercharger?
Don't know if the term is correct, I refer to mechanical supercharger:

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And on: maybe the option to use both a supercharger and turbocharger? :mrgreen:

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Post Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:19 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Roots, twin screw, and centrifugal superchargers are planned. Twin charging, the use of both turbo and superchargers, have been discussed but not confirmed, as far as I know.
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Post Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:11 am

Re: Modern turbocharger technology + antilag systems

Any update on the use of supercharger? Also I do not like the new style of naming the cars and engines. the categorizing doesn't work, the old style of naming the engines and models worked much better, was MUCH simpler, and organized by name.
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Post Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:23 am

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What do you mean update? They have said they are going to make all three kinds of superchargers, but it's on the back burner till after the tycoon elements are added.
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